Which Medical Aid once again

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Hi guys, I am on Discovery Classic Comprehensive R1800 per month.
I have just heard about Renaissance by Prosperity Health. Can anyone tell me if this is better than the one I am on? Sick of paying these mad prices for Discovery. I also heard Discovery have dropped their cover from 300% to 100% of a claim and also the prices keep going up.
Discovery is great if you want to go and see a movie for R10 in my opinion.

Thanks
 
I asked several people before joining Discovery, even people in industries that deal directly with them... apparently even though they suck they are still the best.
 
I asked several people before joining Discovery, even people in industries that deal directly with them... apparently even though they suck they are still the best.

I been with Discovery 9yrs. I have to say I have not had a single problem with them in all that time.

Whenever the conversation of medical aid comes up with friends or family, I often find that most people (generalization) are unhappy with their medical aid simply because they actually do not understand how it works and what benefits they qualify/dont qualify for. I'm not saying the rules are simple, not by a long shot, but I found by "learning" my medical aid it helped a lot.

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Just remember that Discovery has dropped their coverage by 200% and increased their rates. This is just not fair to us. I truly believe that Discovery is the best marketted one but definitely not the best. I have made some enquiries and will let you guys know what I find out.
 
Speak to a qualified broker, if you don't have one PM me and I can guide you.

You spend alot of money On MA and its important that you get it right. Many are wasting cash by overbuying(or is that being oversold) and some are hopelessly under covered. It all depends on your and your families needs. That why i cant give a blanket answer, there is none.

If you want I can help here on the fourm or PM. Here on the fourm I will have to ask a range of questions you might not want everyone to see the answers too!!
 
How on earth do you get 200% coverage?

Does that mean that if I go to hospital they will pay twice as much as the treatment costs?
 
It is something like they will pay 200% of the discovery rate.

Discovery says to do X, should cost R100.
Doc says to do X, costs R150

They will pay R150, cause it is less than 200% of what they cover you for.

But, if Doc says R250, then they will only cover up to R200
 
Slightly OT: Can anyone, anywhere direct me to a list of the legislated "Prescribed Minimum Benefits" that a MA has to honour (even when funds are depleted)?
 
% Coverage

What follows is a very simplified explanation.

For year we had a system where doctors and other providers were either contracted in our out of medically aid rates. Broadly speaking there were two rates of reimbursement to providers for their services, the ones that medical aids set and paid, this was the lower one (RAMS was an example), and the rate that the providers associations set as the private rate( eg SAMA).

As medical evolved most schemes offered a choice of covering you a one of these rates or somewhere in between. The government decided that their was price fixing(competition commission) in the market place and so this system was scrapped.

The National Health Reference Price Lists was then introduced.NHRPL set prices and broadly speaking, with a couple of exeptions, this is what the 100 % rate of most medical schemes is. It looks remarkably similar to the old medical aid rates, inflation adjusted for the years that have passed since then.

Of course no one can force any provider to charge any rate( they are working on that issue, but thats another can of worms altogether) and many specialists do not charge the NHRPL rate. Most charge 300 % of NHRPL, thus alot of schemes provide cover at that rate.

Discovery Health used to provide cover at 300% but could simply not afford to do so for 2007(their annual results are out, they made a underwriting loss last year and their solvency that is supposed to be at 25% slipped from 22 to 18% https://www.discovery.co.za/downloads/pdf/2006_audited_financial_statements.pdf) Thus they have dropped the cover to 200% and very recently, because of the outcry in the market place over the drops introduced a new very expensive called the Executive plan.

Please understand that if you have less than 300% cover you are at very real risk of having large co payments should you be hospitalized for any reason.

This comes about a result of many specialists refusing to sign up for the Discovery premier rate( which wants providers to do the same work they did last year for alot less money -- be aware that many providers who appear on the Discovery premier rate list do not charge the rate-- Discovery embarked on a negative response campaign, they added all providers to it who did not inform them that they did not want to on the lists, many are only finding out now that they are on the list)

Many providers will continue to charge rates based on 300% of NHRPL, thus if you are on a plan that does 200% you will have to pay the difference.
 
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I use Camaf (commercial auditors medical aid fund), bunch of winners in my books:D

I like CAMAF, unfortunately not an open scheme so only the accountants and the like have access to it. Another option here for the guys to look at is Profmed.
 
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