Thousands of inmates to be released

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By Wendy Jasson Da Costa, Janine Stephen and Angele Quintal

Close to 11 000 inmates are to be released from jail as a means of dealing with overcrowding in the country's prisons.

These are prisoners who had been slapped with fines of R1 000 or less and who are still behind bars because they were unable to come up with the money.

Deputy Justice Minister Johnny de Lange said on Thursday: "There are a lot of people in prison who do not need to be there at all."

Their offences related to 'less serious and non-violent crimes'
Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula, who was speaking in his capacity as head of the cabinet's justice, crime prevention and security cluster, said their offences related to "less serious and non-violent crimes", such as drunken driving in which no one was killed.

"We are not throwing into the public domain people who are a potential threat to our communities," he said.




Ironically, his son, Siyabonga, was recently arrested for drunken driving and was released on R500 bail after he smashed into another vehicle, injuring a woman.

Nqakula said 10 978 detainees already qualified to be released, and 6 135 of them had appeared before a court for consideration en route to their formal release.

Justice director-general Menzi Simelane said this week that he wanted to see section 63A of the Criminal Procedure Act used.

'We know the problem exists'
This allows a prison head to approach the relevant court to release an accused on warning in lieu of bail or to amend the bail conditions imposed by that court when overcrowding reaches such proportions that it constitutes a material and imminent threat to the human dignity, physical health or safety of an accused.

Inspecting judge of prisons Judge Nathan Erasmus noted this week that South Africa's jails were on average 140 percent full. He said that if accepted design criteria were strictly interpreted, some jails were between 300 and 400 percent overcrowded.

Nqakula said several means were being used to control the number of prisoners relating to people who could be granted bail or released on their own recognisance and warned to appear again at a specific time.

He said the police were also being encouraging to use their discretion to release suspects who paid bail in less serious or minor cases in terms of the Criminal Procedure Act.

Nqakula added that admission of guilt and plea bargaining were being used to keep the number of offenders in jail at a manageable level.

It is a view shared by Simelane, who said he could not understand why police bail was not being used better. Often an accused was brought to court and released on exactly the same amount that police could set bail, unnecessarily clogging up the system.

National Institute for Crime Prevention and the Reintegration of Offenders executive director Soraya Solomon said on Thursday: "We know the problem exists, we know that there are people who can't pay really small bail for petty crimes.

"Yes, I think politicians have realised that we have to do something, because obviously prison does more damage to that kind of person. There is the political will but we are not implementing it."

Solomon said the relevant section in the Criminal Procedure Act applied to both small bail amounts and petty fines.

On a possible outcry from detractors who believe the government was soft on crime, Solomon said: "As a society we have to take responsibility because they are people from our society.

"They are usually not a threat to society; they have committed a petty offence. Those people have to have a chance at changing their life around.

"It's us as civilians who must give them that chance, or we will never stop the revolving door of people going in and out of prison."

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20070510232331286C113030
 
Is there an election coming up? :confused:
 
Gah - people in jail because they could not pay a fine less than R1000 are better off out of jail. They will just progress towards more violent criminals if jailed.

Of course, one does need to consider whether the R1000 fine that would have been paid was the correct judgement......
 
Instead of slapping fines on folks who can't afford to pay them then locking them up they should rather punish them by making them do community service.
 
bring back the death penalty wont have to release criminals

While I am all for the death penalty, etc, one still needs to take this in context.

Imagine, you have two beers, drive off, get arrested for drunk driving, go to court, get a R800 fine or 30 days in jail, you pay the R800 and go home. Case over.

What about the guy that cannot afford the R800 - is he more "criminal" than you?

And, in no way, am I suggesting that a rapist etc get released, I just want to put some perspective on this.
 
This process undermines the justice system imho.

These are prisoners who had been slapped with fines of R1 000 or less and who are still behind bars because they were unable to come up with the money.
The public is fed this / or similar lines each time this happens and a month or 2 later we hear how someone was raped or killed by a released convict.
My beef is not with releasing these people that owe fines of less than R1000 or 'whatever', it is that Correctional Services and the minister always seem to make a stuff up and release some of the wrong people.
 
This process undermines the justice system imho.


The public is fed this / or similar lines each time this happens and a month or 2 later we hear how someone was raped or killed by a released convict.
My beef is not with releasing these people that owe fines of less than R1000 or 'whatever', it is that Correctional Services and the minister always seem to make a stuff up and release some of the wrong people.

Agreed.

As I said, it is justified IF it is done correctly without any corruption. I feel, and others can argue if they see fit, that a week in jail is way more punishment than a fine of say R800....

However, and this is where the poopoo hits the fan, the real criminals - those who had no option of a fine, will grease the palms of "justice" to be included in the "to be released" list.
 
My thoughts exactly :D
Just my early morning cynicism - in fact people being turned into hardened criminals because they poor and cant afford the fine is even worse. Nobody benefits from a situation like that.

Community service, work details - there has to be a better option.
 
in opinion if you cannot afford bail dont drink and drive, i wont feel sorry because i can afford to pay the 800 rand needed

how many murderers and rapists sit with life in prison when they should be killed

eye for an eye i say
 
Just my early morning cynicism - in fact people being turned into hardened criminals because they poor and cant afford the fine is even worse. Nobody benefits from a situation like that.

Community service, work details - there has to be a better option.

Government should institute some sort of Kibbutz system for petty criminals.
Include trade schooling etc as "night classes".

Everyone wins, society is releaved from the burden of paying the whole cost (of incarceration), and I would even go so far as to advise a "clearing of the slate" for those petty criminals who achieved good results and behaved well.

Nothing is gained by the victimisation of a person who stole a chicken from a supermarket.
 
in opinion if you cannot afford bail dont drink and drive, i wont feel sorry because i can afford to pay the 800 rand needed

So, drinking and driving is OK if you can afford the fine.
:mad:

Perhaps rape is OK too if you don;t mind a few years in jail?
 
in opinion if you cannot afford bail dont drink and drive, i wont feel sorry because i can afford to pay the 800 rand needed
Being able to afford bail makes it excusable? :confused:
 
Just my early morning cynicism - in fact people being turned into hardened criminals because they poor and cant afford the fine is even worse. Nobody benefits from a situation like that.

Community service, work details - there has to be a better option.

So I noticed :p . Maybe you need to take an extra ‘happy’ pill on waking :D .
Unfortunately I suffer from the more chronic 'all day cynicism'.

For those guys guilty of petty theft and other smaller crimes should do community service IMO. Only problem is how do you get them to report for duty. Most will just disappear. In the case of drunk driving I think the offender should rot in jail because being poor is no excuse.
 
While I am all for the death penalty, etc, one still needs to take this in context.

Imagine, you have two beers, drive off, get arrested for drunk driving, go to court, get a R800 fine or 30 days in jail, you pay the R800 and go home. Case over.

What about the guy that cannot afford the R800 - is he more "criminal" than you?


And, in no way, am I suggesting that a rapist etc get released, I just want to put some perspective on this.
I agree with you completely, people need to think before posting.


A certain sage once said "Jail was made for the poor man....."
 
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Just my early morning cynicism - in fact people being turned into hardened criminals because they poor and cant afford the fine is even worse. Nobody benefits from a situation like that.

Community service, work details - there has to be a better option.

Work details , yes, but specific i.e. road repair, or on a building site for low cost housing, mixing cement, carrying bricks etc, and in a bright coloured overall, yellow or green. Supply one meal a day.
Done on a voluntery basis, by the convicted, (unemployed only) with the option to remain on after his time is up as a casual for 3 months, after which he may be employed on a more permanent basis.
The contract companies who participate are rewarded with vat exclusion on certain building equipment, i.e. sand or cement or bricks.
That way the man does the time, but at the same time gives back to the community in a positive way, and has an employment opportunity afterwards.
 
I kind of agree, let the people who are in jail for drunken driving, and non-violent crimes free and jail the evil ones, murderers, rapists, molestors etc.
 
Oh for fcuks sake, here we go again. I actually cannot believe what the hell is going on in this place. It is like a nightmare. I actually hope the gvt gets a disease and dies a quick death.
 
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