Scopa probes eNatis

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The tender was awarded in 2001 to the Tasima consortium at an initial value of R354731000 . It was subsequently increased to R408-million.

Tasima, also known as Masiye Phambili, beat nine companies who bid at prices below R354.7- million.

Another two companies bid below the final R408-million the system has cost. AST Group lost with a R372-million bid and another company, Natcon, lost with a R395-million bid. This brings the companies that bid lower than the ultimate winner to 11, if the adjustment to R408- million is taken into account.
http://www.suntimes.co.za/article.aspx?ID=487845
 
/me feels helpful

/me lifts carpet

/me waits for guavamint to finish sweeping

/me lowers carpet.
 
Somebody maybe needed a R50mil house/yacht/overseas home?
 
You're assuming that the other tenders didn't also have the R50 mil house/yacht cost built-in. :p

If it meant a functional, secure system, I don't think many would have given a hoot.
 
Could be many perfectly good reasons why the more cost effective tenders were not accepted.
The explanation/s from the department as to why the most expensive one was chosen, will however, make for interesting reading though ;)
 
You can't win doing these massive government contracts...
- When you are bidding no one has the slightest idea of what they really want.
- The price you bid with has to be balanced between what you really think the job will cost vs what will win you the bid.
- bid too low and you are not taken seriously
- bid too high and someone will undercut you
(remember no one at this stage knows what the final product will look like.)
Its all a game sadly.
 
You can't win doing these massive government contracts...
- When you are bidding no one has the slightest idea of what they really want.
- The price you bid with has to be balanced between what you really think the job will cost vs what will win you the bid.
- bid too low and you are not taken seriously
- bid too high and someone will undercut you
(remember no one at this stage knows what the final product will look like.)
Its all a game sadly.

It's a game I play on a daily basis.:(
 
This probe will be stop before it starts as to many top officials (in GOV) probably benefited.
 
Read in Time that Nigeria's rulers between 1960 and 1999 stole 400 billion dollars in oil revenues which is equal to all the foreign aid given to the whole of Africa during that time. :eek:

:sick::sick:
 
Read in Time that Nigeria's rulers between 1960 and 1999 stole 400 billion dollars in oil revenues which is equal to all the foreign aid given to the whole of Africa during that time. :eek:

:sick::sick:

:confused:

What does this have to do with eNatis?
 
Just an interesting snippet on how far corruption can go

This whole eNatis thing has more to do with an ill-prepared response by the bidder to the requirements of the tender, and thus the project has gone over budget. Unfortunatly it is something that happens regulaly, the other day a major logistics client of ours neglected to inform us crucial information when we were proposing a solution and we got the order. 3 Months down line, the system just could not handle the traffic! And now they have to cough up for upgrades, the CFO was really not happy.:D
 
This whole eNatis thing has more to do with an ill-prepared response by the bidder to the requirements of the tender, and thus the project has gone over budget. Unfortunatly it is something that happens regulaly, the other day a major logistics client of ours neglected to inform us crucial information when we were proposing a solution and we got the order. 3 Months down line, the system just could not handle the traffic! And now they have to cough up for upgrades, the CFO was really not happy.:D

Only in ...S....A.... Why?
 
Only in ...S....A.... Why?

IMO it's becuase South African companies and public organisations, have a less than favorable outlook on IT, I've heard the term "budget blackhole" used to describe a companies IT department.

The day Executive management get the correlation between IT and productivity in the organisation, we will experiance this for a long time to come.
 
Can I ask the masters of this forum to please start a new thread.
The name: What has the ANC government to date, done right in South Africa?
I am hopelessly negative and need you people to tell me what is working right or what is working well in the new South Africa. Their is however one rule. The item you post is not allowed to have any negativity that can be coupled to it. For ex. eNatis created work for some people, BUT it screwed up the motor industry and people could not get licenses for vehicles that they had purchased.

I have a suspicion that this will be a very short thread or some people will burn out trying to think of something good to say.
 
The name: What has the ANC government to date, done right in South Africa?

Along the lines of Monty Python's Life of Brian where the Peoples Front For The Liberation Of Judea ask "what did the Romans ever do for us" :)
 
You will probably find that 3 or 4 bids went in with companies named differently but with the same directors. They do that to ensure that they get in in on the bid at any price.
 
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