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iPhone is the [best/worst] device ever
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supersunbird
Honorary Master
No 3G means the suck...
lion_fish
Expert Member
I just dont understand the hype?
Ok, the advanced touchscreen and apple OS is a really cool gimmick but something i think would get old VERY quickly.
And like above said, NO 3G let alone HSDPA!
This kinda phone may work in the USA as it comes packaged with a bunch of free/unlimited data / sms / minutes options.
Something unheard of here with our ripoff companies.
Ok, the advanced touchscreen and apple OS is a really cool gimmick but something i think would get old VERY quickly.
And like above said, NO 3G let alone HSDPA!
This kinda phone may work in the USA as it comes packaged with a bunch of free/unlimited data / sms / minutes options.
Something unheard of here with our ripoff companies.
Nothing stops Apple from bringing out updated connectivity for the iPhone... 
It is a cool device. Have you seen it's display in action?!!? It bloody well rocks! 
The current connectivity options suck apart from WiFi that is. Apple can and will sort it out.
It is a cool device. Have you seen it's display in action?!!? It bloody well rocks! The current connectivity options suck apart from WiFi that is. Apple can and will sort it out.
3G is not a US standard. When the phone hits Europe it will most likely get 3G. 3G can be enabled by the installation of one tiny little chip. Apple will cater for the market at hand, and their current market does not need 3G.
*sigh*
It is a worldwide standard.
No it won't.
Yes the current market does need 3G. And they originally planned to have a CDMA system that is faster than the GSM system, but Verizon turned them down. Cingular took them up instead.
Not having 3G is only a problem if you have no WiFi arround you. Who cares about cellular standards when you can get over 100 Mbps from WiMax? Not that the phone supports that, but WiFi is still faster and I'm sure the next gen iPhone will support WiMax.
armitage
Expert Member
Well from engadgenet's recent rumours about the european launch it seems that it will be partnering with vodafone and *drumroll* have 3g(hsdpa) support
Till I heard that I was completely uninterested about the phone.
But yeah....since itll have 3g......im starting to get a bit interested.
Though there is that thing it seems that you actually have ot PAY for a ringtone
Till I heard that I was completely uninterested about the phone.
But yeah....since itll have 3g......im starting to get a bit interested.
Though there is that thing it seems that you actually have ot PAY for a ringtone
The EU iPhone does have 3G
Skeptik
Banned
They are talking to Vodafone, but no deal has been struck yet. Hope they don't put that red sticker on it.Well from engadgenet's recent rumours about the european launch it seems that it will be partnering with vodafone and *drumroll* have 3g(hsdpa) support
Till I heard that I was completely uninterested about the phone.
But yeah....since itll have 3g......im starting to get a bit interested.
Though there is that thing it seems that you actually have ot PAY for a ringtone
AirWolf
Honorary Master
AirWolf
Honorary Master
lion_fish
Expert Member
Vodafone Live! iPhoneOh God no
I second that.
diabolus
Executive Member
Well from this rather indepth review [comparing with phones like N95 / Treo 750]
I have a few major problems with this iPhone :
[Read the "value" part of the review, not even the reviewer seems to sure who this phone's target market is, as it's too expensive for the "chatty teenager" and fails as a smartphone/PDA replacement for business people]
http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/Apple-iPhone-Cell-Phone-Review/Value-amp;-Comparisons.htm
a] It costs the same as a PDA-smartphone like the HTC TyTn, while it doesn't have abilities even close
b] Crap camera [2 Megapixels vs. 5 Megapixels out now]
c] The battery is "bolted" into the phone, forget about ever replacing this battery without hassles [prolly will replace the entire phone].
d] The OS on it is a PROPRIETARY OSX variant which :
1] Do not use JAVA
2] Do not allow any third party tools , in fact you can not install anything on it.
3] Point 2 basically means, if it's not on the phone already you are screwed [for now anyway] .
4] For example, there's no games on this phone, can't add either. *boggle*
5] If you got use to places like Handango to get tools for your PDA/Phone, won't find anything for this at all?
e] No hardware keyboards and such, so you are entirely dependent on the touch screen [touchscreen keyboard in other words] . I can not really judge this "feature", but i wasn't too fond of touchscreen keyboards on my -phone- [multimedia device yes, phone no]
f] It comes in 2 storage flavours, 4Gb and 8GB, but NO EXPANSION slots. So if you buy wrong size , you are screwed.
g] connectivity, i'm sure they'll change that depending on markets. I know the US got some "different" frequencies on which their 3G networks are running on resulting in many other european-like phones [i.e the N95] not getting much more than EDGE either [which is why it's not an issue in the USA it seems].
h] It does not support MMS! And scores pretty crappy in the SMS department too [ease of use that is].
I would personally wait for the second round on this before buying.
I have a few major problems with this iPhone :
[Read the "value" part of the review, not even the reviewer seems to sure who this phone's target market is, as it's too expensive for the "chatty teenager" and fails as a smartphone/PDA replacement for business people]
http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/Apple-iPhone-Cell-Phone-Review/Value-amp;-Comparisons.htm
a] It costs the same as a PDA-smartphone like the HTC TyTn, while it doesn't have abilities even close
b] Crap camera [2 Megapixels vs. 5 Megapixels out now]
c] The battery is "bolted" into the phone, forget about ever replacing this battery without hassles [prolly will replace the entire phone].
d] The OS on it is a PROPRIETARY OSX variant which :
1] Do not use JAVA
2] Do not allow any third party tools , in fact you can not install anything on it.
3] Point 2 basically means, if it's not on the phone already you are screwed [for now anyway] .
4] For example, there's no games on this phone, can't add either. *boggle*
5] If you got use to places like Handango to get tools for your PDA/Phone, won't find anything for this at all?
e] No hardware keyboards and such, so you are entirely dependent on the touch screen [touchscreen keyboard in other words] . I can not really judge this "feature", but i wasn't too fond of touchscreen keyboards on my -phone- [multimedia device yes, phone no]
f] It comes in 2 storage flavours, 4Gb and 8GB, but NO EXPANSION slots. So if you buy wrong size , you are screwed.
g] connectivity, i'm sure they'll change that depending on markets. I know the US got some "different" frequencies on which their 3G networks are running on resulting in many other european-like phones [i.e the N95] not getting much more than EDGE either [which is why it's not an issue in the USA it seems].
h] It does not support MMS! And scores pretty crappy in the SMS department too [ease of use that is].
I would personally wait for the second round on this before buying.
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Moot point - all camera phone cameras are crap.
Most of those other points are fairly bogus. Of course it uses a proprietary Os, much like palm uses their os and others use windows mobile.
I have an email enabled phone and send about 2 mms' a year. Why? because it has email.
Cant really judge it? Why not?
No games? They'll come just like they did on the ipod.
No proper SDK... thus no cool third party apps...
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/fast-and-furious/no-iphone-sdk-means-no-iphone-killer-apps-267899.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/fast-and-furious/no-iphone-sdk-means-no-iphone-killer-apps-267899.php
Wont happen. Have you ever seen one of Apple's partners get to brand their hardware in any way?
And thus no crappy third party apps which is probably what Apple is trying to avoid at this early stage.