Disgusting - In the land of the Free

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A 70-year-old US woman has been left bruised and bloody after an unexpected clash with police who came to arrest her because her lawn was dry and brown.


The officer had judged that Ms Perry's "sadly neglected and dying landscape" breached an Orem city guideline


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6282348.stm

Phew even Garden Cities restrictions arent this bad :eek:
70 Years old WTF ?? :confused:
 
Well, thats 1/2 of the story... If she was packing a shotgun, would it be different and intending to use it? (That is America, the land of the free guns)
 
Oh no, the authoritarian nazi agents of darkness are on the rampage again. Now they no longer target brothers in L.A but little old ladies :sick:

But look the local church has offered to help her clean up her garden :eek: Obviously a conspiracy because they're in it to and are trying cover for their fellow agents of evil.

:rolleyes:
 
Isn't the first time a geriatric has been beaten or tasered for no apparent reason. Law enforcement seems drunk on its own power in the authoritarian climate post-911.
 
Isn't the first time a geriatric has been beaten or tasered for no apparent reason. Law enforcement seems drunk on its own power in the authoritarian climate post-911.

Oh please :D

I love how one or two U.S police offecers step out of line in the vast country that is America and the likes of SKY and BBC broadcast this all over the world as if it's major news and you guys wet yourselves. :o

I wonder how many officers stepped out of line in the same city as you are in the last few hours nevermind Europe or the rest of the world.

I guess it feeds your need to justify your Anti-Americanism :p
 
Well, thats 1/2 of the story... If she was packing a shotgun, would it be different and intending to use it? (That is America, the land of the free guns)
If they come charging into her home unannounced, which is not unusual, then you she is well within her rights to put them down.

In cases like this there need to be real consequences for the police when they step out of line. They should face the same criminal charges as anyone else who assaults or kills someone.
 
If they come charging into her home unannounced, which is not unusual, then you she is well within her rights to put them down.
No, she's not.

At the very least she's going to walk away from this injustice a very wealthy woman.
 
I love how one or two U.S police offecers step out of line in the vast country that is America and the likes of SKY and BBC broadcast this all over the world as if it's major news and you guys wet yourselves. :o

I wonder how many officers stepped out of line in the same city as you are in the last few hours nevermind Europe or the rest of the world.

I guess it feeds your need to justify your Anti-Americanism :p

I'm not anti-american. The best gun boards are all american, and I spend a lot of time on them. In the last year or so there have been quite a few questionable incidents of this sort. None involving shotguns or anything of the sort. Seems to happen at airports, mostly. Also hardly ever makes more than the local news.

We already know that many officers here step out of line. However, at least they don't resort to beating geriatrics. As for your point on bbc etc broadcasting internationally, there was a story a few months ago about a british cop who attacked a pensioner with a baton in her own home. Hardly got a peep on the news.

Just seeing a problem that needs to be fixed doesn't make one anti-anything. You're taking the same approach old Charlie N took when he said that SAfricans who complain about crime are anti-SA whingers.
 
Oh please :D

I love how one or two U.S police offecers step out of line in the vast country that is America and the likes of SKY and BBC broadcast this all over the world as if it's major news and you guys wet yourselves. :o

I wonder how many officers stepped out of line in the same city as you are in the last few hours nevermind Europe or the rest of the world.

I guess it feeds your need to justify your Anti-Americanism :p

How would you feel if it was SA, and South African police?

Get off your hobby horse alan.
 
If they come charging into her home unannounced, which is not unusual, then you she is well within her rights to put them down.

No, she isn't. Ever heard of a "no-knock warrant"? Introduced for the war on drugs, proliferated by the war on terror. They do occasionally get the wrong address. Shooting back will get you killed.
 
Sounds to me like a money-hungry old woman who wants to sue the state.

I know how difficult old people can get - and how clumsy they are.

I know everyone will disagree with me on this, but that's what I think.
 
I'm not anti-american. The best gun boards are all american, and I spend a lot of time on them. In the last year or so there have been quite a few questionable incidents of this sort. None involving shotguns or anything of the sort. Seems to happen at airports, mostly. Also hardly ever makes more than the local news.

We already know that many officers here step out of line. However, at least they don't resort to beating geriatrics. As for your point on bbc etc broadcasting internationally, there was a story a few months ago about a british cop who attacked a pensioner with a baton in her own home. Hardly got a peep on the news.

Just seeing a problem that needs to be fixed doesn't make one anti-anything. You're taking the same approach old Charlie N took when he said that SAfricans who complain about crime are anti-SA whingers.

What problem? I don't see any problem relating to authoritarianism. All I see are a few individual cases of officers stepping out of line and the press blowing it all out of proportion. Difference here is there is a crime problem with proof to back it up. Where's the proof besides a few individual cases of officers stepping out of line which you will get in every country anyway


How would you feel if it was SA, and South African police?

Get off your hobby horse alan.

No different. If I read an article about an officer stepping out of line I don't smear the whole police force and country claiming authoritarianism :rolleyes:
 
If they come charging into her home unannounced, which is not unusual, then you she is well within her rights to put them down.
What you should say is that she is right to shoot them. If they're acting like burglars they should be treated like burglars.
 
Oh please :D

I love how one or two U.S police offecers step out of line in the vast country that is America and the likes of SKY and BBC broadcast this all over the world as if it's major news and you guys wet yourselves. :o

I guess it feeds your need to justify your Anti-Americanism :p


Actually it doesnt feed any need to justify Anti Americanism, it feed the need to highligh an injustice commited to a 70 Year old Woman over her garden.

Cops stepping out of line while arresting a criminal is one thing , but a woman who could easily be your mother or anybody on this forums mother, and because of a petty civil ordinance, that is the point yankee.

It is irelevant which country this happens, what it highlights is abuse of power and police brutality.
 
Introduced for the war on drugs, proliferated by the war on terror. They do occasionally get the wrong address. Shooting back will get you killed.
So you're saying that if you wake up in the night with people in your home you're not going to take out your gun?
 
So you're saying that if you wake up in the night with people in your home you're not going to take out your gun?
With them all wearing uniforms and shouting "Police" . . . no - I dont want to be shot thanks.
 
With them all wearing uniforms and shouting "Police" . . . no - I dont want to be shot thanks.

That raises an interesting point though, I wonder how easy police uniforms are to acquire, especially in SA? Would be a good, albeit disturbing, way to catch people off guard.
 
Sounds to me like a money-hungry old woman who wants to sue the state.

I know how difficult old people can get - and how clumsy they are.

I know everyone will disagree with me on this, but that's what I think.


Maybe.....

Actually it doesnt feed any need to justify Anti Americanism, it feed the need to highligh an injustice commited to a 70 Year old Woman over her garden.

Cops stepping out of line while arresting a criminal is one thing , but a woman who could easily be your mother or anybody on this forums mother, and because of a petty civil ordinance, that is the point yankee.

It is irelevant which country this happens, what it highlights is abuse of power and police brutality.

Note the word cops. It was one cop. If her accusations are proven true( so you can't claim brutality yet anyway) it would prove only one cop was guilty of brutality or abuse of power not the whole police force or country for that matter.

Also the offending officer no doubt will punished for the "injustice" so what more do you want?
 
What I found strange was that she was being warned because she had messy lawn... How cool is that :D

Alan seriously I think America can stand up for itself stop defending it so much... Blinded by your love of another country, weird..

(I also think it's stupid to make stereo typical remarks about the Americans over this issue)
 
So you're saying that if you wake up in the night with people in your home you're not going to take out your gun?

'Take out'? You mean unholster? My gun's scared of the big dark safe... :D

With them all wearing uniforms and shouting "Police" . . . no - I dont want to be shot thanks.

Hm. But every couple of months or so we hear about hijackers/robbers with SAPS uniforms. They'd just have to shout 'police'. I'd be more worried in the US, though... there they wear tacticool ninja suits rather than uniforms, and they have actual training.
 
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