Mugabe, MDC reach deal in Zim

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http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/566600.htm

Tue, 18 Sep 2007


Zimbabwe's ruling Zanu-PF party and the main opposition Movement for Democratic Change announced an agreement Tuesday on the adoption of a bill for joint presidential and legislative elections next year.

"As a confidence-building measure we have made a bold decision not to stand in the way of the constitutional amendments," Thokozani Khupe, deputy leader of the main MDC faction, said in parliament.

"This should be regarded as a first step in resolving the national crisis," she added.

Justice minister Patrick Chinamasa told lawmakers that the agreement "should send a clear message that Zimbabweans are their own liberators and brook no interference in their internal affairs".

"This amendment will demonstrate a level of political maturity and I pray that our newfound unity of purpose will endure," he added.
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*Awaits the endorsement from mad BoB fan Jimmy Carter :sick:*
 
Could it be that the facilitation efforts of President Mbeki are showing some dividends ?
 
Hahaahahaahahahahahahaha

Yes I can see how actively doing absolutely nothing about Zim, could have forced the hands of these two enemies, probably did it to see if Thabo is still alive, they weren't too sure
 
Have you forgotten that there have been behind the scenes discussions with both parties in Pretoria and Harare by the President and his office, I suppose you either chose to forget that or you didn't know about it, do you really think these two parties came together on their own ?

Remember that the African Union tasked Mbeki with facilitating discussions aimed at a peaceful resolution of the crisis in Zimbabwe
 
Well after so many years, and an economic metldown, I suppose some could consider this a win in a very round about and unbelievable way.

;)
 
xtermin8or said:
Have you forgotten that there have been behind the scenes discussions with both parties in Pretoria and Harare by the President and his office, I suppose you either chose to forget that or you didn't know about it, do you really think these two parties came together on their own ?

Remember that the African Union tasked Mbeki with facilitating discussions aimed at a peaceful resolution of the crisis in Zimbabwe
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Buddy, the day you can use political "discussions" as currency with actual value, that would be the greatest day ever. Unfortunately, experience all over this tiny little blue speck of ours, hovering in the universe, has only confirmed the negative.

So unless you know some secret meeting agenda trade secrets, that we do not, I will take any thabo involvement in this as purely accidental
 
We know there have been discussions 'behind closed doors' between the two parties under the facilitation of the President and members of the President's office, so it stands to reason that this agreement must have something to do with those meetings
 
xtermin8or said:
We know there have been discussions 'behind closed doors' between the two parties under the facilitation of the President and members of the President's office, so it stands to reason that this agreement must have something to do with those meetings
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Well lets wait and see, if this is successful I will apologise to you, and bow down in humility. But experience has taught me, that I do not have to worry about my bad back
 
xtermin8or said:
We know there have been discussions 'behind closed doors' between the two parties under the facilitation of the President and members of the President's office, so it stands to reason that this agreement must have something to do with those meetings
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Only reason its done "behind closed doors" is so that the general public doesnt see how much money is changing hand and how many pats Thabo gives Mugabe on the back... :rolleyes:
 
Whether anything will come of this agreement is another discussion, but it does show that there is a start to some form of dialogue between the two parties and that is a positive movement, we have to hope that it continues in this fashion, ZANU-PF leadership are very arrogant and stubborn and don't want to give up power, the MDC are getting desperate for power - so anything can happen
 
lion_fish said:
Only reason its done "behind closed doors" is so that the general public doesnt see how much money is changing hand and how many pats Thabo gives Mugabe on the back... :rolleyes:
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Thabo Mbeki, like Nelson Mandela, does not get on too fabulously with Robert Mugabe, in fact Mbeki got on alot better with Tony Blair and George Bush
 
xtermin8or said:
Whether anything will come of this agreement is another discussion, but it does show that there is a start to some form of dialogue between the two parties and that is a positive movement, we have to hope that it continues in this fashion, ZANU-PF leadership are very arrogant and stubborn and don't want to give up power, the MDC are getting desperate for power - so anything can happen
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My only worry is, before the last zim election, there was also "positive" discussions, and the pressing of flesh. And then the elections came, and it was a nightmare with intimidation and fraud. So I am getting an uneasy de-javu feeling here
 
been doing a little checking and calling around, what this agreement means, is that the parliament and the senate can sit as an electoral college and elect a President should Mugabe resign.

Does this signal that Mugabe will resign soon, not that this is necessarily a good thing, if Mugabe resigns and the electoral college picks a President, it will be more of the same as Zanu will hold the majority vote.

However a resignation from Mugabe, could be just the trigger the country needs to escape the crisis
 
Both MDC vice-presidents of the Morgan Tsvangirai and Arthur Mutambara-led factions -- Thokozani Khupe and Gibson Sibanda -- told the House Tuesday that they wanted to give South African President Thabo Mbeki's facilitation efforts a chance.

A Southern African Development Community Heads of State and Government extra-ordinary summit held in Dar-es-Salaam, Tanzania, in March this year appointed President Mbeki to mediate between the government and the MDC.

In addition, the meeting also urged the Western powers to lift economic sanctions they imposed on Zimbabwe as well as mandating SADC Executive Secretary Tomaz Salomao to carry out a study of the economic situation in the country and propose ways in which the regional group could assist.

Pursuant to the SADC resolution, the ruling Zanu-PF appointed Justice, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Minister Patrick Chinamasa and Public Service, Labour and Social Welfare Minister Nicholas Goche as its representatives to the talks while the two MDC factions are represented by their secretaries general, Tendai Biti and Welshman Ncube respectively.

The SADC heads of State Summit has since instructed regional finance ministers to draft an economic recovery plan for Zimbabwe, in concert with that nation's government.
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