Darth Garth
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NYT - Bush govt guilty of war crimes for condoning torture
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Moederloos
Honorary Master
Brother - point not out the mote in mine eye, and ignore the beam in your's.
chiskop
Executive Member
tibby's guilty of war crimes?
Moederloos
Honorary Master
Not to my knowledge.
Although I was fairly sure my meaning was clear - that is
"Stop pointing fingers at other governments, when the one you support is not only such a p1ss poor performer, but racist to boot".
chiskop
Executive Member
Our govt. is guilty of war crimes?
Moederloos
Honorary Master
OK - now you are being ridiculous.
With due respect, as we often spar lightly, joke together, and even chatted on JAWUG - but stop misquoting me. I did not say that.
chiskop
Executive Member
Come on Moederloos - are you suggesting:
a) our govt stuff-ups are equivalent to war crimes?
b) any govt. error (intentional or otherwise) means that they lose the right to point out another govt.'s grievous errors in judgement?
Bearing in mind too that tibby, AFAIK, is not even an ANC voter.
Moederloos, Though we often disagree, I have a lot of respect for your opinion, and enjoy the comments that you make. I'm just not sure what the 'beam" in our eye is when we're discussing the 'mote' of war crimes, and I'm not sure that tibby, or anyone, loses the right to criticise a foreign govt who's actions are um, borderline, at best.
a) our govt stuff-ups are equivalent to war crimes?
b) any govt. error (intentional or otherwise) means that they lose the right to point out another govt.'s grievous errors in judgement?
Bearing in mind too that tibby, AFAIK, is not even an ANC voter.
Moederloos, Though we often disagree, I have a lot of respect for your opinion, and enjoy the comments that you make. I'm just not sure what the 'beam" in our eye is when we're discussing the 'mote' of war crimes, and I'm not sure that tibby, or anyone, loses the right to criticise a foreign govt who's actions are um, borderline, at best.
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Geriatrix
Executive Member
I'm with Tibbs, its a valid link to a reputable news source.
Its sickening when "good" countries start to backtrack on their own hard fought and respected human rights laws. And how ignorant and uninterested the general public is in whats happening.
Its sickening when "good" countries start to backtrack on their own hard fought and respected human rights laws. And how ignorant and uninterested the general public is in whats happening.
McSack
Executive Member
You are 100% right there. How relevant your comments are to our very own government
Some people here it seems were born yesterday. So naive as to think this only happened once Dubya came along 
Then again they all believe only Bush said Iraq had WMDs
The power of propaganda
. Julias Streigher would be proud 
Then again they all believe only Bush said Iraq had WMDs
The power of propaganda
. Julias Streigher would be proud Geriatrix
Executive Member
I'm sure it happened before Dubya. But Dubya and his pals are just so careless and open about it(like our own arrogant government), showing just how little they care about liberty and justice.
chiskop
Executive Member
Some people here it seems were born yesterday. So naive as to think this only happened once Dubya came along
Who's suggested that? Even you look back at 1991, most people who disagree with you look even further back.
rwenzori
Honorary Master
The power of propaganda
I assume you mean Julius Streicher.
I wonder how little alan would like being electro-genitally integrated into one of those windy-windy machines the SADF boys used to use? What sound does a chicken make when its balls are being fried? LOL.
