White Zim farmers in court for growing crops

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And so the circus continues:

Ten white farmers appeared in court in Zimbabwe yesterday accused of growing crops on their land - in a country where millions of people will need food aid within the next few months. The case in Chegutu district, 70 miles southwest of Harare, exposes the perversity of President Robert Mugabe's policies. Commerical agriculture was the mainstay of the economy in the days when Zimbabwe was a food exporter. Since 2000, when the government began seizing white-owned farms, many of them violently, the agricultural sector has collapsed and the economy has gone into freefall, with inflation now at 6,600 per cent, the highest in the world. The World Food Programme estimates that it will be feeding 4.1 million Zimbabweans, one third of the population, by the end of the year. But none of that has stopped the Zanu PF regime.

Now the Chegutu group is charged with violating the Consequential Provisions Act, which gave the few hundred remaining white farmers a final deadline of Sep 30 to leave their land and homes. The colonial-era Chegutu courtroom was packed by the so-called "war veterans" who are Mr Mugabe's staunch supporters, and "beneficiaries" who stand to be given the properties should the 10 be convicted. Among them are Edna Madzongwe, the speaker of parliament, and Nathan Shamuyarira, a former information minister and one of President Robert Mugabe's closest aides. The farmers, aged from 38 to 75, produce a variety of food from chickens to oranges and have already given two-thirds of their farms to the government for resettlement. All but one still work their remaining land intensively and say they intend to try to continue.

They were remanded on bail and their lawyer David Drury sought to have the case referred to the supreme court, which is due to rule on the constitutionality of the land law. They pleaded not guilty and face up to two years in prison if convicted. "We have also said that no farmer has received any payment of any kind whatsoever and that the way compensation is decided means farmers would be paid nothing, given that Zimbabwe's inflation rate is over 6,000 per cent," he added. But a prominent lawyer in Harare said the courts were blocking urgent applications over land cases. "The atmosphere in the courts has changed dramatically in the last week," he said. Didymus Mutasa, the lands minister, has said that the few hundred remaining white farmers will be forced out, one way or another.

"The position is that food shortages or no food shortages, we are going ahead to remove the remaining whites," he said recently. "Too many blacks are still clamouring for land and we will resettle them on the remaining farms." In fact many farms were given to members of the government and their cronies, and one minister has admitted that the new farmers have failed in their cultivation efforts. Outside the court, the scruffy shops of Chegutu were empty of basic foods, and street vendors sold small, sour oranges. They came from a once-prolific citrus farm in the district now devastated after it was seized by Bright Matonga, the deputy information minister, earlier this year.
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Particularly incriminating, that last statement by Mutasa. Give me any reason why this man should not be tried for crimes against humanity.

Would be interesting to hear what the ANC comrades on this forum have to say about this. Tibby? Jozi?

Source: http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=17491
 
Zimbabwe and their actions is simply an indictment against Africa and what their indigenous people stand for. The cracks we see in South Africa seems to be one and the same. Simply allow crime and farm murders and the "natural" exodus will continue, then expatriate the unused farms and they achieve what Zimbabwe achieved just in another dubious way. Africa is doomed for failure. Africa need rulers or colonialists to manage them. They cannot do it themselves!
 
excerpts from a chat I was having with someone from Zim last week.

me: how is Zim these days? Seems quite.
10:16 Zim person: not really, things are really bad now, nothing in the shop and its getting more difficult to get stuff on the black market.....
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me: You're family ok up there? sounds tough.
10:35 Zim person: yeah they are fine...so they say. was home in july, took some groceries for them....
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Zim person: where is pilanesburg?
10:40 me: 2 hours north of Jo'burg. We saw elephants, hippos, rhino, giraffes, bok, eagles, etc in one day!
Zim person: not, really, a friend of mine wants to go, i practically grew out in the parks, my dad is an outdoor person
me: far cheaper than Kruger also.
near Sun city.
10:41 zim person: i think i've seen just about all the animals u can find in southern africa....and i've tasted quite a few
10:43 me: yummy.
nothing like elephant ham uh?
10:44 Zim person: yeah....u've tasted one? there's a small hunting joint in zim, in the hwange national park...we went there once and they had jus killed an elephant that had been caught in a snare...the meat was really good
10:45 me: really? never had it. Wife would kill me if I tried elephant. She loves them.
10:46 Zim person: but u know now, coz of u crazy green pple, there are too many elephants, more than the parks can support
10:48 and coz of CITES, the poor countries that have the elephants cant kill them...i guess its a good thing that once in a while they are caught in a snare and they have to be killed
10:52 did u see any lions in pilanesberg
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Zim person: enough of that, how was the situation in the states, did u join the anti-war protests?
or u joined the pro-war proteste
me: no. things are going south there.
10:03 so many houses on the market, lots of financial trouble happening. the land of milk and butter might loose their cows soon if they're not careful
10:04 Zim person: its not like things are better here...have u seen how things are going up in this country? thats how it started in zim....very soon the whole world i sgonna be like zim
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That last part has been in my mind since the chat. Really do wonder sometimes if I shouldn't cash in and leave the casino floor while I'm ahead...

Only thing I will say about this person is she is black and well educated in both Zim and SA educational institutions.
 
Bye bye Africa.

At least it will be fit for colonists in100 years after starvation and AIDS wipes out the indigenous populations.
 
well i dunno how South Africa can't see from the mistakes of Zim.. Shows you our Governments IQ levels.

They kicked out the whites... 9 million Zim black people ended up In SA cause its so horrible to live there, now when SA loses its whites, where they gonna go. The government doesn't give us much reason to want to stay, how do i feel when i graduate from Uni, with a good degree, and BEE kicks in and someone with a matric certificate gets the job instead, cause of race, but yet overseas they want me...

And one things for certain im not having children in this country, i don't want them to have to live such sheltered lives, oh well. Say im giving up on this country, when you have nothing cause your "white" don't come crying.
 
StrongTurd said:
And so the circus continues:



Particularly incriminating, that last statement by Mutasa. Give me any reason why this man should not be tried for crimes against humanity.

Would be interesting to hear what the ANC comrades on this forum have to say about this. Tibby? Jozi?

Source: http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=17491
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You can bet that they will find some sort of racially discriminating phrase or insinuation in your first statement.

Maybe if the words or letters in your statement are re-ordered in a certain way, it will spell "baboon" or something similar.

You have to understand that, in the world of the ANC, proper handling of all against-black racism (as there as no such thing as against-white racism), gagging the media, brainwashing the masses against any Enemies Of The State (i.e. whites), and enforcing loyalty inside the Collective by all means necessary, takes priority over taking care of ordinary citizens and doing what's in their best interest.
 
Its not even black on white anymore - the IFP was asking Mbeki to explain the Selebi issues too,
I suppose that makes them "disloyal to the black cause" now.
 
The saddest part of the whole ZImbabwe story is that the neighbouring states (including our *cough* non racial government) support Mugabe entirely.

Racist to the core the lot of them.
 
It's the same attitude as 'we are going to change names whether it costs 2c or R100m'. What a royal **** up this continent is.
 
VJB 449 said:
It's the same attitude as 'we are going to change names whether it costs 2c or R100m'. What a royal **** up this continent is.
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Black governments want to rule themselves in Africa, obviously, but they want handouts and trade help from the likes of the EU at the same time.
They had 30-50 plus years to sort our their BS but most countries in Africa have not been able to do so. Look at Vietnam for example. A war
which destroyed so much infrastructure and killed 1 million people,
leaving the left over population with PTSD, well Vietnam is now
surging ahead economically. They don't BS about France and the US,
in fact US investment and visitors are welcome in that country, which
is one of the safest places to visit in the world. Heck look at Europe
post WW2. WW2 really destroyed that continent, wiped out huge
numbers of educated people, made a huge number of orphans
and imposed a Soviet dictatorship on 50% of the continent.
Well even in the ex-Soviet bits people are forging ahead on their
own, they welcome foreigners, they welcome their money
and people are cleaning up their act - socialism destroyed
a lot of free enterprise thought up there, but they are slowly
improving their lives.

In Africa you mostly find petty dictatorships. When a democratic
government gets elected it listens to no-one, after all it knows best.
Mbeki will lecture George Bush and Tony Blair (and everyone else)
on how to run their country yet his own country is a mess because
of reverse-racism, crime, poor state of health, disgruntled working
class etc.

Africa, clean up your act. If Vietnam, CAMBODIA (a country
which was a hell 25 years ago under the Khmer Rouge - which went back to the stone age),
China, Korea, Philipines, Europe, South America, etc can
get their acts together, why can't you???

I will also say that a lot of these politicians have petty
inferiority complexes. Now that they hit the gravy train they
can flex their testosterone driven muscles - let their
personal egos influence their sworn duty to serve the
people they were elected to serve. It's such a pity because
ordinary black people are so humble and nice, and it's they
who get f-ed the most by this.
 
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@PeterCH - you left out Japan and Israel too.
Israel started with Zip and got somewhere in no time at all.
Africa starts WITH SOMETHING, and in no time at all, has nothing.

Brilliance.
 
It would seem that the only difference between Africa and all these other countries, are their race.

Let's be honest about it.
 
Skinner said:
It would seem that the only difference between Africa and all these other countries, are their race.

Let's be honest about it.
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No.

Those other countries also had to REBUILD, while in AFRICA the "new" countries started off with a working infrastructure....

From zero to hero, as opposed to africas "rape and pillage".
 
Moederloos said:
No.

Those other countries also had to REBUILD, while in AFRICA the "new" countries started off with a working infrastructure....

From zero to hero, as opposed to africas "rape and pillage".
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You know what I meant with "race".

I implied what everyone else is too scared to say.
 
Skinner said:
You know what I meant with "race".

I implied what everyone else is too scared to say.
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Rubbish. If you implied it's because of skin colour then you are peddling racist ideologies. Africa is a crap continent - but it has nothing to do with race or religion. It has everything to do with the failure of democracy as a government style.
 
4cer said:
well i dunno how South Africa can't see from the mistakes of Zim.. Shows you our Governments IQ levels.

They kicked out the whites... 9 million Zim black people ended up In SA cause its so horrible to live there, now when SA loses its whites, where they gonna go. The government doesn't give us much reason to want to stay, how do i feel when i graduate from Uni, with a good degree, and BEE kicks in and someone with a matric certificate gets the job instead, cause of race, but yet overseas they want me...

And one things for certain im not having children in this country, i don't want them to have to live such sheltered lives, oh well. Say im giving up on this country, when you have nothing cause your "white" don't come crying.
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Well same thing happend in mozambique when all the protugues farmers were chased off their lands. It seems african goverments refuses to learn from other african countries mistakes.
 
BobbyMac said:
Rubbish. If you implied it's because of skin colour then you are peddling racist ideologies. Africa is a crap continent - but it has nothing to do with race or religion. It has everything to do with the failure of democracy as a government style.
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Bull, Africans just cannot manage, as soon as they smell the bucks the become corrupt and power mad, they do not want to relinguise power afterwards. They cannot even spend a budget properly as planned and just line the pockets. Nothing to to with failing democracy but rather failing African demoncracies, Yes. They do not and never will understand the concept of democracy. The South African government has proven that point emphatically!
 
NoADSLyet said:
Bull, Africans just cannot manage, as soon as they smell the bucks the become corrupt and power mad, they do not want to relinguise power afterwards. They cannot even spend a budget properly as planned and just line the pockets. Nothing to to with failing democracy but rather failing African demoncracies, Yes. They do not and never will understand the concept of democracy. The South African government has proven that point emphatically!
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I'm not refuting that corruption is a deep seated African problem. I am taking exception that Africa's problems are due to her people being Black. That's a racist attitude and nothing more than a load of crap.
 
BobbyMac said:
I'm not refuting that corruption is a deep seated African problem. I am taking exception that Africa's problems are due to her people being Black. That's a racist attitude and nothing more than a load of crap.
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I agree with you, it has nothing to do with the color of the skin, that is a song used by black Africans to gain recognition and pity for their case, it is all a question of their mentality and as the same problem seems to exist through the whole of black Africa it seems to be a genetic inheritance or trait the mismanage, abuse and destroy everything. To be power-mongers and warmongers and thus create their own wars and tyranny amongst their own and with the added trait of violent behavior that makes Africa what it is. Thus New-age savagery, nothing has changed for them in 400 Years. I repeat, It is nothing to do with color of skin but the inborn mentality! History and the rest of Africa proves it and there is so far very little to make anyone believe South Africa will be different. On the contrary.....
 
BobbyMac said:
I'm not refuting that corruption is a deep seated African problem. I am taking exception that Africa's problems are due to her people being Black. That's a racist attitude and nothing more than a load of crap.
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Then what do you see the reasons for Africa's failures, that are unique to Africa?

Again (as pointed out): other nations had similar fates, though most of them recovered. All things considered: the only thing that is different for Africa, than all the other countries who failed but stood up again, are THE PEOPLE.
 
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