Spyware from Microsoft in Windows vista's new Service Pack 1

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Microsoft picks nagging alerts
2007-12-4 11:36


Seattle - Microsoft Corp is pulling back from a system that disables programs on users' computers if it suspects the software is pirated, opting instead for a gentler approach based on nagging alerts.
Microsoft said late on Monday it will roll out the new version of Windows Genuine Advantage with the first "service pack" for Windows Vista, due in the first quarter of 2008.

When computer users activate a copy of Windows Vista or try to download certain software from Microsoft's website, the Windows Genuine Advantage system scans their PCs for signs of pirated software. Today, if the tool finds an unauthorised copy of Vista, the Vista user experience disappears and other features are suspended.

In the new version, PC users found to have a pirated copy of Vista will continue to be able to use their computers, but with unmistakable signs their operating system is a fake. The desktop wallpaper will turn black, and a white notice will appear alerting users to the problem.

Each time they log in, they will be prompted to buy legitimate software, and every hour, a reminder bubble will appear on the screen.

Users with a high tolerance for irritation can put off switching to genuine software indefinitely, but those who relent and buy a real copy of Windows can do so at reduced prices.

"We want to make sure unwitting victims get a great treatment," said Mike Sievert, a corporate vice president in Microsoft's Windows marketing group.

Outcry across web forums

Windows Genuine Advantage collects several pieces of information about a PC during the check, including the serial number on the hard drive and its IP address, but Sievert says none of that can be used to identify individual PC users.

In August, the Windows Genuine Advantage team at Microsoft accidentally updated its servers with computer code that wasn't quite ready for prime time. As a result, Microsoft said "fewer than 12 000" people who tried to validate software over a two-day period couldn't.

Some found legitimate copies of Windows hobbled after the tool labelled them pirated, and an outcry spread across web forums and technology news sites.

Sievert said the glitch in August was unrelated to the change in how the Windows Genuine Advantage tool will work.

"Microsoft realises it has to take a different approach with their customers," said Chris Swenson, a software industry analyst for market researcher NPD Group. "If you shut down someone's computer, you're going to anger customers."

Microsoft also said on Monday the package of Vista updates will fix two holes in the operating system that have allowed pirates to create counterfeit copies - one that mimics the activation of software by computer makers before a PC is sold, and one that extends a grace period given to people who install new software, before they must activate it.

Sievert said Microsoft plans to offer an update for Windows Genuine Advantage that will run the piracy check regularly without the computer user initiating the process.
 
"We want to make sure unwitting victims get a great treatment," said Mike Sievert, a corporate vice president in Microsoft's Windows marketing group.

This is what it is about. MS is not trying to stop dedicated pirates. They know there are cracks and hacks.

What they are going after are shops selling customers a PC with an illegal copy of Vista on it. :mad:

If you want to pirate software, that is your choice.

But shops that make you pay for illegal software deserve a swift kick in the nuts! :eek:
 
This is what it is about. MS is not trying to stop dedicated pirates. They know there are cracks and hacks.

What they are going after are shops selling customers a PC with an illegal copy of Vista on it. :mad:

If you want to pirate software, that is your choice.

But shops that make you pay for illegal software deserve a swift kick in the nuts! :eek:

Well i definately agree there! With you that is:D
 
I'm lovin XP SP3 at the mo. Until I get a DX10 card, absolutely no reason to migrate.
 
I will still stay with XP.

Besides, there will still be a lot of bumps and niggles to be ironed out :)

My strategy is to let other people waste their time and money on sorting out the Vista schitte, and once it is up and running fine, then (and only then) will I agree to an upgrade to Vista. By that time most of the major niggles should be sorted out, and a lot of HOWTO's should be up :D

Otherwise I stick with XP (games) and OpenSuSE 10.3 (home office) :D
 
I will still stay with XP.

Besides, there will still be a lot of bumps and niggles to be ironed out :)

My strategy is to let other people waste their time and money on sorting out the Vista schitte, and once it is up and running fine, then (and only then) will I agree to an upgrade to Vista. By that time most of the major niggles should be sorted out, and a lot of HOWTO's should be up :D

Otherwise I stick with XP (games) and OpenSuSE 10.3 (home office) :D

i couldn't agree more.
 
Ubuntu with compiz/beryl enabled is a much better "user experience" but eye-candy is also bothersome. An OS should just work and when it does it should be easy to model to your specific needs. Anyway Vista blows.
 
XP SP3 is only coming out next year jan/feb. do you have the unofficial version?

He probably has the release candidate 2 build like I do, it's official.

Lol @ "if you want pirated pirated software, that is your choice". It's also illegal, I hate it when people complain about "spyware" because they're running illegal software.. and some of that comes with real spyware btw.

People with original software (not me) probably couldn't care. The "spyware" aspect is overblown as usual because people want to run their warez.
 
the headline should read "spyware present in vista will be toned down for sp1 release"

currently, it reads likes this is something new, whereas the truth is the spyware-aspect (author's words) is being relaxed with sp1
 
They must like having their servers DDos'd to death...

killadoob said:
24 hours from release until its cracked
If they create more hype about how great their new system is then it'll be less.
 
Totally agree with the The_Librarian ... Heck XP with sp2 and nothing after that for me. Dx updates etc but I won't bother till more hardware drivers are amassed too. Running Process Explorer csrss.exe has been patched again and again and leaks memory more and more! The updates for XP within the last year are a disgrace! (reminds me of a Wired.com article where MS works closely with US Navy aware of the problems - related to DDos attacks on other country's). They don't patch properly and know it!
 
I just wish these people would stop with the "Vista sucks" slogan thing. It is rather childish, and you will look like a right twat when the next OS is release, as you will then be all "That OS sucks" and "I'm sticking to Vista".

If you actually use Vista then you will realize how much better than XP it actually is. I have now been using Vista since it was released. I have not had ANY problems with it since I put it on my PC. I even now use it on my home PC. It has bluescreened once, and that was because I did something that I should not have done.

Vista uses the resources that is available to it so much better than XP does. I even went as far as trying out XP on my new laptop after giving Vista a good run. And I must say, after a month on XP I was gagging to go back to Vista.

Educate yourselves first on using Vista and it's features before you go and say it is inferior to XP. That is a laughable statement at best.
 
yip vista is better than xp

the only thing i dont like about vista is corel draw opens slow, alot slower than xp but i put that down to corel draw and not microsoft
 
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