Competition--Look what it brought us

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Jerrek

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Last year, Bell Sympatico DSL stuttered along at 1 Mb/192 Kbps. Their "ultra" service was 3 Mb/320 Kbps.

Cogeco Cable's regular was 2 Mb/320 Kbps, and the "pro" package was 4 Mb/640 Kbps.

Rogers Cable had only a regular, at 1.5 Mb/192 Kbps.


This is now December 2003. Throughout the year, the following happened:

- Bell got rid of the download caps, and raised the speed from 1 to 1.5 Mbps at no extra cost.
- Rogers raised its speed from 1.5 Mbps to 3.0 Mbps at no extra cost.
- Cogeco raised its speed from 2 Mbps to 3 Mbps, and the pro package from 4 Mbps to 5 Mbps.

Now, Cogeco is trailing 7 Mbps for the "pro" package. Bell has announced that starting January, users will be bumped to 3 Mbps (regular) and 4 Mbps (ultra). The upstream of both will be 800 Kbps. All of this at no extra cost.

Competition rocks.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/December2003/15/c3122.html

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">TORONTO, Dec. 15 /CNW/ - Offering the best performance in its class, Bell
Canada will double the speed of its High Speed Internet service from 1.5 Mbps
to up to 3 Mbps. Also receiving increased speeds are Bell Internet customers
who are currently on the 3Mbps service will move to up to 4 Mbps. Uploading
performance for both of these customer groups will increase five times to up
to 800kbps.
These speed upgrades will deliver measurable performance improvements
through Bell's further investment in network capability, not achievable by
just changing modem settings. The price for the enhanced service will not
change for either Bell residential Sympatico customers or Bell Business
Internet customers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
 
Well, i reckon this competition thing is highly overrated. I reckon we should stick with this monopoly system we got over here, and see where it takes us. I mean, just because it works in Canada, doesn't mean its gonna work over here. The next thing you know every Tom, Dick & Harry is getting in on the telecommunications business. And of course if that happened, we could see prices drop, services improving etc. and where would that leave us?
And of course, then people would start using broadband for reasons other than those prescribed by our monopolists. Total chaos. Don't need it.

Telkom - South Africa's Handbrake to progress.
 
And it is done! My ISP, Cogeco Cable, with their motto "twice as fast as DSL," has started raising the speeds for the SECOND time this year.

The regular package is now 5 Mbps down, 640 Kbps up for C$44.95 a month [R200], and the pro package seems to be doing <b>10 Mbps down, 1 Mbp up</b> for an extra C$20 [R90] a month.

I myself hit just over 1,170 kb/s on a linux ISO download, and can upload at just over 100 kb/s to the ISP's ftp server.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/r0/download/493502~5aec323c8b4916d3b4596580e44ee81a/untitled2.JPG
 
Jerrek, just for interest sake, would you mind pinging these sites and posting the results?

www.yahoo.com
www.bbc.co.uk
www.saix.net
 
Yahoo - about 43ms

Code: 
[root@infinity root]# traceroute www.yahoo.com
traceroute: Warning: www.yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using 216.109.118.67
traceroute to www.yahoo.akadns.net (216.109.118.67), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.67.192.1 (10.67.192.1)  10.163 ms  9.602 ms  12.407 ms
 2  cgowave-0-93.cgocable.net (24.226.0.93)  17.509 ms  20.933 ms  15.730 ms
 3  cgowave-0-197.cgocable.net (24.226.0.197)  18.571 ms  18.431 ms  16.321 ms
 4  cgowave-hala-core2.cgocable.net (24.226.0.166)  15.026 ms  14.887 ms  17.438 ms
 5  66.59.149.105 (66.59.149.105)  16.996 ms  27.187 ms  18.039 ms
 6  216.18.63.25 (216.18.63.25)  18.522 ms  16.164 ms  16.023 ms
 7  POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.86)  28.968 ms  29.198 ms  27.173 ms
 8  acr2-so-3-2-0.Chicago.cw.net (208.172.10.153)  28.528 ms  27.631 ms  28.356 ms
 9  agr3-loopback.Chicago.cw.net (208.172.2.103)  30.511 ms  28.256 ms  27.982 ms
10  dcr1-so-0-2-0.Chicago.cw.net (208.175.10.9)  27.626 ms  29.635 ms  30.533 ms
11  dcr1-loopback.Washington.cw.net (206.24.226.99)  60.599 ms  59.999 ms  59.281 ms
12  bhr1-pos-10-0.Sterling2dc3.cw.net (206.24.238.38)  59.284 ms  60.655 ms  58.622 ms
13  csr12-ve242.Sterling2dc3.cw.net (216.109.66.98)  61.932 ms  68.063 ms  65.406 ms
14  216.109.84.166 (216.109.84.166)  41.940 ms  41.957 ms  41.419 ms
15  vl33.bas2-m.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.120.154)  41.541 ms  41.676 ms  41.832 ms
16  p4.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.118.67)  41.402 ms  41.479 ms  43.227 ms


BBC - about 60ms

Code: 
[root@infinity root]# traceroute www.bbc.co.uk
traceroute to www.bbc.net.uk (212.58.240.120), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.67.192.1 (10.67.192.1)  11.422 ms  11.026 ms  10.012 ms
 2  cgowave-0-93.cgocable.net (24.226.0.93)  27.872 ms  17.218 ms  15.006 ms
 3  cgowave-0-205.cgocable.net (24.226.0.205)  18.615 ms  16.438 ms  13.469 ms
 4  cgowave-hala-core2.cgocable.net (24.226.0.166)  16.913 ms  26.925 ms  15.727 ms
 5  h64-187-46-221.gtconnect.net (64.187.46.221)  16.223 ms  26.708 ms  19.409 ms
 6  216.18.63.25 (216.18.63.25)  16.482 ms  17.021 ms  16.982 ms
 7  GE4-0.PEERA-TOROON.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.18)  17.408 ms  16.271 ms  16.176 ms
 8  206.220.243.194 (206.220.243.194)  28.421 ms  28.310 ms  30.560 ms
 9  rt0-POS5-0.thny.bbc.co.uk (212.58.255.41)  49.933 ms  49.523 ms  48.204 ms
10  212.58.255.202 (212.58.255.202)  55.894 ms  59.287 ms  57.125 ms
11  www20.thny.bbc.co.uk (212.58.240.120)  57.270 ms  59.691 ms  57.401 ms


SAIX - about 360ms

Code: 
[root@infinity root]# traceroute www.saix.net
traceroute to www.saix.net (196.25.1.200), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  10.67.192.1 (10.67.192.1)  13.318 ms  12.397 ms  10.173 ms
 2  cgowave-0-93.cgocable.net (24.226.0.93)  16.836 ms  15.976 ms  15.287 ms
 3  cgowave-0-197.cgocable.net (24.226.0.197)  34.832 ms  15.724 ms  15.924 ms
 4  cgowave-hala-core2.cgocable.net (24.226.0.166)  16.149 ms  17.922 ms  15.748 ms
 5  h64-187-46-221.gtconnect.net (64.187.46.221)  16.587 ms  19.143 ms  38.191 ms
 6  216.18.63.25 (216.18.63.25)  16.571 ms  15.366 ms  16.741 ms
 7  POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.86)  27.639 ms  33.355 ms  28.631 ms
 8  66.59.191.94 (66.59.191.94)  28.187 ms  29.822 ms  29.111 ms
 9  p12-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.237)  40.004 ms  27.193 ms  28.406 ms
10  p15-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.62)  28.280 ms  35.118 ms  29.285 ms
11  p6-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.85)  150.214 ms  159.840 ms  223.567 ms
12  p15-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.13)  70.086 ms  52.445 ms  47.908 ms
13  g0-1.na01.b001105-24.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.34.146)  46.055 ms  47.562 ms  46.993 ms
14  TelkomSouthAfrica.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.5.238)  132.393 ms  132.442 ms  143.252 ms
15  wblv-sr-1-atm-5-0-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.11.41)  354.103 ms  357.076 ms  354.612 ms
16  * * *
 
Thanks. Interesting to see how low your latency is to the UK.

Here we were getting excited about:

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.112] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.224.112: bytes=32 time=188ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.224.112: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.224.112: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.224.112: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=247

Ping statistics for 212.58.224.112:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 186ms, Maximum = 191ms, Average = 188ms
 
I agree with StrobeMeister.

Hehehehe
 
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