Morne Steyn vs Ruan Pienaar

Who is the best flyhalf and should wear the Nr. 10 Springbok jersey?

  • Morne Steyn

    Votes: 145 78.0%

  • Ruan Pienaar

    Votes: 41 22.0%
  • Total voters
    186
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ok, so lets hear it?Who's better?

I'm going with what Joel said, the 1st guy you pick in your squad is your goal kicker ... so how did they decide Ruan over Morne?

2nd: I've heard that Ruan puts the backline away better than Morne, then why was there 2 quick tries in the 15min Morne played?

So yes, I believe we should pick a FLY-HALF for the #10 position, not an ALL-ROUNDER?

lets hear it !!!! :o
 
I found this very interesting and true on the supersport website.

But starting Pienaar in big test matches right now is a gamble. He is a confidence player, and it was written before the Durban test that his performance would depend on whether he lands his first kick or not. He succeeded with his first attempt on his home ground, and behind an advancing pack, he excelled.

It was the exact opposite at Loftus. His first kick was a conversion attempt from almost in front of the poles. Instead of going through, as anticipated, it hit the upright. It was a significant moment for those of us who know how Pienaar gets down on himself after missing an early kick. And the fears were founded.

With the Lions fronting up, and dominating, at forward this time, Pienaar was denied the front-foot ball he thrived on seven days earlier. He was not the same player, and South Africa were fortunate that in Fourie du Preez they have a scrumhalf who can easily slip into the role of pivot and general, which he did.

It was the introduction of Morne Steyn, however, a player just about every man and his dog favoured as the Bok flyhalf before the series, that really showed up the Pienaar selection.
 
Do we really need a flyhalf whose entire game is based on his first kick, at international level?

For consistency and performing under pressure I would go for Steyn.
 
Definitely Morne Steyn. Also I think that he'll be useful in the Tri-Nations were his awesome drop-kicking ability will be needed in close games with NZ and Australia.
 
Ruan, missed three kicks? And you want to boot him? Nah...he had a bad game this past week, two week ago he won the test with his boot for us.

Steyn deserves a chance as well, but in my mind Ruan has the jersey.

We have a Tri-nations coming up - the depth can only help.
 
First test ratings :

Ruan Pienaar - Another supposed "weak link", Pienaar slotted straight back in to action after an injury layoff and was a nerveless, tactically astute presence all afternoon, with his accurate boot punishing the Lions. 8

Unfortunately a rating was not done for Morne on that site but elsewhere :

Morne Steyn (67 mins for Pienaar): Too late to make real impact.



Second test ratings :

Ruan Pienaar: Last week he didn't put a foot wrong but this week he struggled to get control of the game as the Lions put him under enormous pressure. He missed two penalties and a conversion and those missed points nearly saw the Lions take the series to a decider. 5

Morne Steyn: Kicked the winning penalty and was coolness personified in a hugely pressured situation. In front of his home fans he stroked over ball as the siren sounded from within his own half to write himself into the annals of Springbok rugby folklore. 8

Only mention of the penalty again...
 
Has to be Steyn... The game's momentum changed significantly when he came on. He won the test that Ruan was busy throwing out the window. We need a specialist half and not an all rounder, perhaps Ruan will be better utilised on the bench as he is a terrific all rounder.
 
Morne to start. Ruan to cover #9 and #10 on the bench.

Next question?
 
White tought us all a lesson in consistant picking.

The fact of the matter is Div needs to make up his mind now and stick with it. Both Steyn and Pienaar WILL have their off days. Both Steyn and Pienaar are class players. But looking into 2011, one has to be picked as the "boss" at the expense of the other. We can't keep on juggling them.

I'd go with Steyn. Not only does he kick for posts, but his tactical kicking and weighted uppies are by far superior. Also from time to time Pienaar's defence is found to be lacking. Severely. He was a revolving door at loftus, the Lions attacked his channel even more that that of Adi and Ruan didn't look to be in any form of tackling mood. The only thing he could do was grab onto shirts. But hey... like I said.... that was his off day. At durbs he was great again.

I agree with EtienneK. Ruan Pienaar is great to have on the bench. He definately doesn't remind me of a specialist fly-half.

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Jedijo said:
Has to be Steyn... The game's momentum changed significantly when he came on.
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Hmm, funny and here I thought it might have been because of the addition of Brussouw, Jacque Fourie and Steyn. But you were able to tell it was just Steyn. Now would the addition of fresh legs at altitude not automatically result in them running the tired Lions off their feet, no matter whose legs they were.

He won the test that Ruan was busy throwing out the window.
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And again, here I thought it was Schalk who was trying to throw the test out of the window by allowing the Lions to get 10 nil up in the first few minutes but all along it was actually Ruan.


You see this is the problem really. I do not have an issue with Morne Steyn playing, he is a great player, but it is this blind fanaticism that gets to me. Yes, he is good but that does not all of a sudden make Ruan cr_p!
 
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This is not fanaticism, if anything lance you seem to be portraying that image more so than us.

What is it about steyn you don't like? why should he not be given a chance to show us what he can do? Is it so hard to imagine giving the guy a chance to prove you right and us wrong? or visa versa.
 
BLIXEMPIE said:
Steyn. We won the match the moment when his feet made contact with the field.
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In my opinion, it was Brussouw who made the biggest impact. Once Brussouw came on, our forwards played like forwards should. He led from the front and was unstoppable.
 
Difficult one. I like both players. But at the moment Pienaar's kicking is not what it should be and I would vote Steyn.

And I would definately bench Pienaar to cover 9,10 even 15 if needed. Replacing Ruan with Morne was one of the wisest decisions Devvie could have made.:D
 
I thought Morne was magnificent. We were creating scoring opportunities from the 15th minute onwards but with Ruan and Frans Steyn being slightly off cue we weren't capitalizing on those opportunities. Morne didn't miss a single kick other than the long range drop attempt.

Had Ruan stayed on we would have still scored the tries but possibly missed the conversion from the touchline and the long range penalty and thus the match.

Ruan is more dynamic on attack but is perhaps less complete and consistent a goal kicker. Defensively too I would say Ruan has a slight edge.

On a heavy ground, overcast and wet field I would play Morne and on a hard dry ground I would tend towards Ruan...

But at Loftus, Morne would start and Absa Stadium Ruan.

Perhaps Fourie and Morne would present a more accurate combination too..
 
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