RICA doomed for failure?

Will RICA be a failure?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 92.6%

  • No

    Votes: 4 7.4%
  • Total voters
    54
FICA is a joke... cos I got scammed just last week by someone who had managed to open a fake account. So much for stopping crime.

RICA is gonna be an even bigger joke.

This is not at all about stopping crime, it is all about restricting the rights of ordinary citizens. Welcome to 1984.
 
Like most other ridiculous governmental ideas, this will probably die a quiet death with no one being held accountable for the millions of taxpayer money wasted in developing it etc.
 
Keeper said:
man, if I had a Rand for every time i've heard you say that....well....let's just say i'd be a good 5 bucks richer! :)

It is true though, +1
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hehe... I think in South Africa we will still get to use it a lot more! :p

Even just today, after fighting some idiots cutting me off in the traffic and arguing with the lady at the licensing department... I really really want to find a nice deserted place where I can move to and live off the land and not worry about all this crap.
 
How safe is your information really going to be?
Considering the current fiasco with the vodacom employee being involved in fraud, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the collected info is sold to marketers.
Spam to increase 10-fold.
 
Well I see alot of benefits to the mobile industry with RICA - that is if it can correctly be implemented and the data correctly captured!

But wait, this is Africa ... mmm
 
Change Question

I think that you need to change the question a bit

"Will RICA be a failure in the LONG run "

REMEMBER -- it is a "process"


MW
 
Tranquility

Garyvdh said:
... I really really want to find a nice deserted place where I can move to and live off the land and not worry about all this crap.
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There are some quite interesting scenicaly beautiful and deserted places up in the Northern Cape near the "Gariep" .

For some people Prieska seems to have a special fascination :D

It is still not far enough north though ;)


MW
 
In both of these cases, the criminal (yes, you're a criminal now) is liable to a "fine not exceeding R2 000 000 or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding ten years".
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TWO MILLION just for the sake of a 99c SIM card?



:sick:
 
Yes, I can see the men in blue eagerly awaiting the thousands of South Africans queuing to report the theft/loss of their 99c SIM cards.
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ROFL!
This article is a good start.

But .. questions regarding who has access to this list and why and how and who finances it and how is it secured still have to be answered.

And, why must I hand my cell phone number to a person sitting behind a desk in a shop?
Surely the SIM card number (not telephone number) is more than enough information to link me to my sim card. My telephone number is not required.
And .. the whole thing about certified copies of ID books! Talk about generating tons and tons of paper.

Why is my ID number not good enough?
Why is the ID Book system failing?
 
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Garyvdh said:
Even just today, after fighting some idiots cutting me off in the traffic and arguing with the lady at the licensing department... I really really want to find a nice deserted place where I can move to and live off the land and not worry about all this crap.
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Why I moved to Port Alfred.

If the main point of Rica is to avoid the use of cellphones in crime, yet you can "register" your address as some nearby school, or church, what sane, cell-phone using criminal is not going to do just that? Pointless, pointless, pointless.
 
If they can implement is successfully, it would be great. But how will they verify the address of the guy in the second shack from the left, zone B? I don't see what rights they will be restricting. The information you give them is the same you give the bank when you buy a car or when you open an Edgars account. What is everyone moaning about?
 
Slootvreter said:
<snip>The information you give them is the same you give the bank when you buy a car or when you open an Edgars account. What is everyone moaning about?
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You're not paying attention.
1. When you lose your phone / your phone gets lost all by itself / your phone falls into the sea / you leave the country for more than 1 day, you now have to report this to the police, i.e. you have to treat your sim card as if it is a gun.
2. You are handing confidential information over to a person behind a counter. That person could be adding your information to an SMS spam list. Yes, people really do do this kind of thing. Yes, they will get some money for their lists.
3. The requirement is that the owner of the sim card must be identifiable, and contactable. Now .. why must you hand out your phone number when the people you're giving the phone number to already know it? It's linked to your sim card number.
4. There are claims that this RICA system will help with sim card and phone theft. However, the existing system already has enough information available to enact this. When your stuff gets "lost", you report the stolen equipment anyway, so .. how exactly does this new system help? These claims are false.
5. When you move, you will have to :
- goto the motor vehicle department and update your address
- goto the bank and update FICA, but wait ... you don't have a bill yet with the new address, so you don't do this. FICA becomes inaccurate and useless.
- goto your ISP's ... ALL of them, and update RICA, and ... ISP's do not actually have offices allover the country, but wait ... you don't have a bill yet with the new address, so you don't do this. RICA becomes inaccurate.
- now you can start with the normal change of address notifications.
6. You're going to have to pay for somebody to look after this database. One way or another. And you know how anything involving government costs us a fortune.

After 4 years, the data in the RICA list is so inaccurate that it's pointless to even try to use it.
I'd like to see the accuracy stats on the FICA list.

But, the point is, it's not going to work, it's a waste of time and money, why on earth bother in the first place?
 
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