WoW - ADSL or ISDN?

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Hi

I have put in an order for ISDN so that I can play WoW, yes I am that addicted. But, I get the feeling that the 128 ISDN is going to get expensive, cuz I will be playing more than just weekends and a day or 2 during the week.

512 ADSL is a bit expensive for me though. I will be phoning Telkom to find out what the entire cost would be for 384 and 192.

My question is, will 192 be good enough for a decent ping in WoW?
Will 3Gb be enough, or should I go for axxess's 10GB account?

Thanks
 
Well....192kbps will be more than enough in the sense of sending data as WoW uses very little Data flow. As far as the ping goes I dont think you'll be any worse of with ADSL than compared to ISDN. The plus with ADSL is you'll be able to play anytime for as long as u want to. I'm on iBurst and get good pings to the local Ethereal WoW server.
 
you will be worse off with adsl
isdn pings are much better for overseas gaming

gaming is not about speed of your line its about latency
 
WoW does not require killer pings....anything under 300ms is great for it. Addiction to WoW isn't to be taken lightly....it involves many many hours of playing. On ISDN especially 128kbps this could lead to an enormous phone bill :eek:

Just yesterday I played like 6 hours.....and the day before that 5 hours. I'm on iBurst and get 200ms ping when busy playing. Funny enough when I ping the site i get between 40 and 70ms. I also believe this to be server related as every one's pings increase when the server gets loaded.

ISDN will be better for international gaming.($$$)
ADSL for local.

Also the distance you are from your exchange will influence your ping.

Hope this helps :D
 
P0tenc said:
Just yesterday I played like 6 hours.....and the day before that 5 hours. I'm on iBurst and get 200ms ping when busy playing. Funny enough when I ping the site i get between 40 and 70ms. I also believe this to be server related as every one's pings increase when the server gets loaded.
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WHAT??? You get a ping of 200ms to WoW servers and 40-70ms on the (Warez) site? I'd hate to break is to you, but you must be playing on an local and illegal server! :mad: Not even unshaped ADSL gets those kind of pings to legit servers!

Here's a proper view for WoW and I play on legit servers in the USA:
I have ADSL shaped (512kb) and a friend has ISDN (64kb). He gets around a ping of 450ms-600ms whereas I get around 700ms-900ms. To tell you the truth, I can hardly see the difference between the two. In fact I found ADSL better because of the bandwidth (512kb in comparison to 64kb) especially in towns where hundreds of people are in one area. When you are off soloing alone, ISDN seems a bit more responsive though, other than that there is very little difference.

The biggest issue with shaped ADSL is the end/beginning-of-the-month download-to-reach-your-3gig-cap spree. It retarts the whole of SA especially internationally. ISDN's gets a little extra lag, but ADSL is almost unplayable due to the shaping.
 
obviously hes pinging local server, the lowest ull get without data overhead would be around 220ms from SA atm.
 
If I take a 3GB account from Telkom, will that be enough to see me through the month playing WoW?

So those of you with ADSL are pretty much satisfied with the gameplay in WoW i see. Being addicted will definitely raise my phone bill to a price higher than the ADSL would have been except without the added 24/7 playability.

I think for a wow addict, it is more important to have 24/7 wow access than to have a higher latency. So u guys sure there isn't such a big difference in the gameplay, even if ISDN gets lower latency?

Thanks for the input.
 
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I just barely manage with a 3gig account, but luckily I have 2 accounts. Best option would be to get a 10gig from axxess!

Word of warning; your connection will be erratic during bussiness hours though (especially around 8am-9am, 12pm-1pm, 4pm-5pm), but during the past public holidays, I played without any issues.
 
I play WOW and SWG online, I have found that because i do not download too much I easily make it with 3 gig for a month. I do some e-mail and a fair amount of surfing.

If you play alone you should be fine, but If you run 2 players or more at a time you will not make it with 3gig.

I can however sugest that if at all possible to get an unshaped ADSL account.

I just got one and I must say that it feels like playing a new game. For the 1st time ever my ping is in the "yellow' range. (under 600) and that's realy awsome.

I still have to test it on a large raid to see what happens, but even on shaped it was fairly playable.

The packet-loss on the shaped account is the real bugger, on unshaped you have about 0 loss and your general "ping" is just under 100ms better.

my 2c :)
 
Does Telkom determine whether or not my connection is unshaped or is it the ISP? I know Telkom has an unshaped option, but I do not recall if it is an ADSL subscription option, or an ISP choice. If unshaped is an ISP choice, which would you recommend?

EDIT: Ah, I just saw that you said account lol. Could you recommend a few sites where I could look around for unshaped? Inexpensive the keyword here.
 
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martin said:
Anyone playing with iBurst on international WoW servers? What's your ping like?
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Playing on usa servers and get pings on ave 700-900 on iburst. Its playable. I have also got ISDN and probably average 600-800 on isdn. To be honest i cannot really tell the difference while playing.
 
Currently the only other ISP I know that sells unshaped accounts other than telkom (over priced) is this one: http://www.saol.com/adsl.asp

I can't say how good or bad they are as this is my 1st week with em, time will tell I guess. Getting an account seems easy enough. Hope it lasts.. :)

With an unshaped account it's actually posible to play during the day too..
 
LaRoosTa said:
WHAT??? You get a ping of 200ms to WoW servers and 40-70ms on the (Warez) site? I'd hate to break is to you, but you must be playing on an local and illegal server! :mad: Not even unshaped ADSL gets those kind of pings to legit servers!
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IMHO paying a monthly subscription for a game you already own is insane.
 
LaRoosTa said:
WHAT??? You get a ping of 200ms to WoW servers and 40-70ms on the (Warez) site? I'd hate to break is to you, but you must be playing on an local and illegal server! :mad: Not even unshaped ADSL gets those kind of pings to legit servers!

Here's a proper view for WoW and I play on legit servers in the USA:
I have ADSL shaped (512kb) and a friend has ISDN (64kb). He gets around a ping of 450ms-600ms whereas I get around 700ms-900ms. To tell you the truth, I can hardly see the difference between the two. In fact I found ADSL better because of the bandwidth (512kb in comparison to 64kb) especially in towns where hundreds of people are in one area. When you are off soloing alone, ISDN seems a bit more responsive though, other than that there is very little difference.

The biggest issue with shaped ADSL is the end/beginning-of-the-month download-to-reach-your-3gig-cap spree. It retarts the whole of SA especially internationally. ISDN's gets a little extra lag, but ADSL is almost unplayable due to the shaping.
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LaRoosta.....if u bothered to read what I typed you would see this (local Ethereal WoW server) and yes I dont feel like paying $$$ pm for a game I already have, and yes I enjoy lower local pings :p
 
Decotey, normally that would be true, but you don't own the game servers do you? If it were free of maintanence and a "best effort" service, and everyone's character were stored on their PC's (which is SO hackable, ala Diablo)

Then I would say, "yes! damn bastads are trying to rip me off!"

But you have dedicated 24/7 staff tending to your needs. You just showcased the South African mentality of wanting everything for free. You're in the age group of around 15-19 right?
 
I will be paying for game cards. I, of course, expect value for my money. I expect there to be gm's to help, I expect all the spells/talents/quests to work. Having played on some emu servers, the mere fact that everything works as it should, is reason enough to pay blizzard.

EDIT: Axxess is R399 for 10 Gigs. With Saol its R399 for 3 Gigs unshaped. I am at work till 5, so I wont be playing during the day, but I will be playing from 5 till late :p . If I play every day about 3 hours and the weekend about 15, will the 3GB cap be safe if I go unshaped?
 
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OT: What noone said!

And not too mention, the game keeps getting updates on a weekly basis. Not only just bug fixes, but they introduce new quests(or special events), update graphics and even introduce new features such as the honour system. (Though I hate Tuesdays) ~R255 for 3 months (~R85 pm) is not a lot! Those excuses do not hold for MMORPG.

Besides, to all those who play on the local illegal servers, you don't get the full experience with thousands of people online, with full-on raids defending Orgrimmar/ or attacking it and I highly doubt you'll ever get to finish, let alone battle, the Onyxia Dragon. (You need 30-40 lvl 60 players to kill her)

IOW, it's your loss!

PS Telkom is the rip-off, not Blizzard.

Back On Topic:

I will be paying for game cards. I, of course, expect value for my money.
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I'd suggest you ask your father/friend to use their credit card. It works out alot cheaper (R85pm) than game cards (R110pm).
 
LaRoosta.....if u bothered to read what I typed you would see this (local Ethereal WoW server) and yes I dont feel like paying $$$ pm for a game I already have, and yes I enjoy lower local pings
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Sorry, I missed your first post. But he did request info for the legal servers.
 
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