New pricing for Neotel NeoFlex, NeoConnect consumer products

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New pricing for Neotel consumer products

Neotel adjusts NeoConnect Prime and NeoFlex Data product ranges in a move towards a new pricing methodology

[milomak]

did i read that right? 5GB is still their max?

[Jagtiger]

did i read that right? 5GB is still their max?

You didn't.
They downgraded from 10GB and 15GB to 5GB. Going backwards.

[bleh69]

i think CDMA is the problem here. its dying.

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i think CDMA is the problem here. its dying.

Not really all that different to other 3G standards. UMTS/HSPA and CDMA2000 are essentially the same core technology, both 3G, both based on CDMA. Both are still growing globally, but they are both eventually going to be overtaken by 4G standards, using OFDMA - most likely LTE. The lifespan of CDMA2000 may well be extended by the fact that it remains the most spectrally-efficient technology for voice (and 1X Advanced, recently standardised, is four times that efficiency again), and is hence likely to be used in parallel with LTE for some time, as Verizon is expected to do in the US.

http://www.cdg.org/technology/lte.asp

Because many UMTS operators are sitting on much newer investments which they still have to pay off (some are only just starting to roll out, amazingly, like Cell C and Telkom here), they are going to be amongst the last to move to LTE. It seems likely that CDMA operators will move to LTE sooner, although there is certainly a roadmap through EV-DO Rev B to LTE, similar to the HSPA+ roadmap.

[Grim147]

i would love to know there market percent lol

[iCubed.Saajid]

Dear NEOTEL. Stating the obvious doesn't really help, especially if you go and do everything CONTRARY to the obvious.

“There are very real differences between wireless and wireline networks in supporting large numbers of concurrent users."

Duh.... So why the hell then did you decide to go with a crappy wireless service, targeted at the residential market nogal which numbers in the millions? And why CDMA of all technologies? Neotel makes CDMA, which is a fairly decent technology used all over the world, seem worse than 56k dialup. Neotel also brought in really crappy, fugly, ancient CDMA equipment (from India I believe?).

per download package pricing offers the optimum way to share their one non-renewable resource, frequency spectrum, fairly amongst users

Yes, duhh, spectrum is limited, yet you've shown yourselves to be completely useless at making effective use of this non-renewable resource, on both the CDMA and WiMax fronts. It should be taken away from you, and given to another company that actually knows how to run a telecoms business, or in fact, run ANY sort of business.

Migrating these high usage fixed users off the CDMA EV-DO network, together with a number of technical improvements in the network, and enhanced coverage, has resulted in improved performance for the majority of CDMA users, and a resumption of the growth in user numbers that Neotel experienced initially,” said Hay.

I can almost guarantee you that there were no technical improvements made, as Neotel does not have any technical skills. Yes, they managed to get rid of a fair number of high-end users, but that's about it. And that's the only reason why the network has improved slightly.

Also, your initial growth was due to public expectation and hope, inter-twined with Neotel's fleecing of the public: promising (not even) the world, and failing to deliver a service that is useable at all. It seems your 2nd wave of growth (so claimed - very hard to believe) will be due to user stupidity. Anybody joining Neotel now only have themselves to blame.

true broadband services over fibre can easily be uncapped without placing undue strain on the access network, and hence Neotel’s new NeoBroadband Fibre is both uncapped and unshaped.

Duh... true broadband IS fibre. Stop stating the obvious.

You say now that fibre can be uncapped and unshaped. Why then do you have FUP/AUP on your fibre product that is not open to the public to read? Neotel's version of uncapped is capped at 35GB.

Ha. Reading this at 3am was fun. Neotel continue to fail, and fail terribly. It seems almost any Neotel press release can be ripped to shreds very easily... even at 3:30am, half in a dwaal....

[VioAdmin]

Dear NEOTEL. Stating the obvious doesn't really help, especially if you go and do everything CONTRARY to the obvious.



Duh.... So why the hell then did you decide to go with a crappy wireless service, targeted at the residential market nogal which numbers in the millions? And why CDMA of all technologies? Neotel makes CDMA, which is a fairly decent technology used all over the world, seem worse than 56k dialup. Neotel also brought in really crappy, fugly, ancient CDMA equipment (from India I believe?).



Yes, duhh, spectrum is limited, yet you've shown yourselves to be completely useless at making effective use of this non-renewable resource, on both the CDMA and WiMax fronts. It should be taken away from you, and given to another company that actually knows how to run a telecoms business, or in fact, run ANY sort of business.



I can almost guarantee you that there were no technical improvements made, as Neotel does not have any technical skills. Yes, they managed to get rid of a fair number of high-end users, but that's about it. And that's the only reason why the network has improved slightly.

Also, your initial growth was due to public expectation and hope, inter-twined with Neotel's fleecing of the public: promising (not even) the world, and failing to deliver a service that is useable at all. It seems your 2nd wave of growth (so claimed - very hard to believe) will be due to user stupidity. Anybody joining Neotel now only have themselves to blame.



Duh... true broadband IS fibre. Stop stating the obvious.

You say now that fibre can be uncapped and unshaped. Why then do you have FUP/AUP on your fibre product that is not open to the public to read? Neotel's version of uncapped is capped at 35GB.

Ha. Reading this at 3am was fun. Neotel continue to fail, and fail terribly. It seems almost any Neotel press release can be ripped to shreds very easily... even at 3:30am, half in a dwaal....

+1!
NeoFail disappoints again. Still waiting for the day when they stop stealing our money and offer us the service this country deserves.

[eltherza]

Day 1 users moaned about it being expensive... took them long enough to either listen or realise that.

[DarkDenim]

I'm still on their Prime Unlimited package and the performance has been awesome for the past 3 months. I've never been contacted about migrating to Wimax and I hope they don't bother me because I'm happy.

[armitage]

Thank you neotel. If it wasn't for you someone would use up all the spectrum and then we would be left with no frequencies to use for wireless thingies. I for one hope we never reach Peak spectrum usage.

[BobsLawnService]

...and hence Neotel’s new NeoBroadband Fibre is both uncapped and unshaped.

He left out the fact that this service is unavailable to consumers and there are no plans to make it available to them. Go Neotel!

[deweyzeph]

Still waiting for a bandwidth monitoring tool....

[Wyzak]

Horrible failure. Use it or lose it. Were they unable to foresee running out of spectrum when they decided to launch wireless uncapped? Were they unable to foresee running out of spectrum when they decided to go wireless? Why do we have a wireless second fixed line operator again?

[Deep78]

hmmmm im still confused as to why they would go down from 15 and 10 to a max of 5GB thats like going backwards?