GPU Value Comparisons

[shovenose]

depends on the game it was tested on.

[agentrfr]

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

[Ono'rach]

depends on the game it was tested on.

I'm assuming that the averages are taken from the same game/games

[shovenose]

I'm assuming that the averages are taken from the same game/games

The GTX 560 Ti and the Radeon HD 6950 1GB trade blows, with one of them being either as fast, a tad slower or a tad faster than the other depending on the game. Overall, the Radeon HD 6950 1GB has a very slight advantage performance wise, only “a couple of frames per second here and there.” according to Guru3D.com.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...0-ti-review/18

You buy a gpu to power your monitor.
The most important factor is your native resolution because thats where you are going to waste your money or not. Remember we are in the age of the LCD. So running a expensive gpu with vsync enabled limiting it to just under 60fps because it needs to run in sync with your lcd to avoid ghosting etc is a waste of money when the gpu are made to cut through frames at 120fps.

[Ono'rach]

The GTX 560 Ti and the Radeon HD 6950 1GB trade blows, with one of them being either as fast, a tad slower or a tad faster than the other depending on the game. Overall, the Radeon HD 6950 1GB has a very slight advantage performance wise, only “a couple of frames per second here and there.” according to Guru3D.com.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...0-ti-review/18

You buy a gpu to power your monitor.
The most important factor is your native resolution because thats where you are going to waste your money or not. Remember we are in the age of the LCD. So running a expensive gpu with vsync enabled limiting it to just under 60fps because it needs to run in sync with your lcd to avoid ghosting etc is a waste of money when the gpu are made to cut through frames at 120fps.

All averages are taken at a res of 1080/1200 according to the OP.

I get what you are saying, but if you buy a card that can just do 60fps now, then in two years it will be not be getting near that as games improve. Whereas a card doing 120fps now will still be more than adequate in two years time. So we are also seeing the benefit of how future proof a card is as well as how much value/fps it is.

[shovenose]

All averages are taken at a res of 1080/1200 according to the OP.

I get what you are saying, but if you buy a card that can just do 60fps now, then in two years it will be not be getting near that as games improve. Whereas a card doing 120fps now will still be more than adequate in two years time. So we are also seeing the benefit of how future proof a card is as well as how much value/fps it is.

No im saying choose a card according to your native. Otherwise get a 120hz monitor. LCD needs to emulate a crt windows to be compatible with the hardware. Truth of the matter is a LCD dont have a refresh rate its not a crt but its needs to emulate one thats why we see 60 or 120hz in windows. If a LCD can have a response rate of 8ms it can actually do 250hz but we only see 60 in windows. Its because they have to work receiving images from the frame buffer of the card like the crt did. So look at your monitor then get a card than can power it. Ive seen guys asking why my fps runs below in a 580 same as a 5770! Because you card is way to fast for your 60hz lcd you will be seeing ghosting and tearing like hell with vsync off

[The_Unnamed]

GTX570 or 6970?
Both similar prices with the GTX being R100 cheaper.

EDIT: Or 6950 and flash to a 6970 (slight chance of being left with just a normal 6950 though)

[Archer]

If the 570 is cheaper then there is no contest, go for the 570

[cerebus]

The 6970 generally wins against the 570 on newer titles from what I've seen. There isn't a MASSIVE amount between them but I think 6970 edges it.

[The_Unnamed]

The 6970 generally wins against the 570 on newer titles from what I've seen. There isn't a MASSIVE amount between them but I think 6970 edges it.

My only gripe with ATI at the moment is they always have crappy support of newer titles for the first week or so. Only once they get a hotfix out of the gate do the games actually become playable.

Also is it worth getting a new card now (considering i can only play games currently in windowed mode otherwise my PC freezes) or should i was for the Rand to strengthen a little?

[cerebus]

My only gripe with ATI at the moment is they always have crappy support of newer titles for the first week or so. Only once they get a hotfix out of the gate do the games actually become playable.

Then....get Nvidia. /shrug

Also is it worth getting a new card now (considering i can only play games currently in windowed mode otherwise my PC freezes) or should i was for the Rand to strengthen a little?

yuwhut??

[shovenose]

2 things wrong in that chart. The 560ti sli and the 6870Cfx is a big fail

Without much jitter in the picture, our 99th-percentile rankings track pretty closely with the FPS averages for Bulletstorm. The big loser here is the Radeon HD 6870 CrossFireX rig, whose 55 FPS average is a mirage; its latency picture is no better than a single 6970's. I'd say the 99th-percentile result for the GTX 560 Ti SLI better captures how much of a basket case that config is, too.

Read the full story here
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21516

Its a very good article

[Archer]

@shovenose - what do my charts show? FPS... so the charts are 100% correct. Reading is good for you.

Finally, my charts are the average of 3 sites results to help eliminate bias. So find another two sites who bench the way you propose, and I'll look into it. Personally, when FPS is above 30 for RTS, and above 60 for FPS, even one dropped frame would not bother me, it would still look smooth. I'd hazard this applies to 90% of people. Same way that only some people can see the flicker of flourescent bulbs, I think only some people can see a single dropped frame. Take micro stutter for instance, I personally know nobody who can see it, yet clearly there are people who can.

[devdev666]

is it better for Me to get a second gtx 580 or get a 590 in terMs of longevity and preforMance?

[Archer]

is it better for Me to get a second gtx 580 or get a 590 in terMs of longevity and preforMance?

SLI GTX580 should offer better performance as the 580 has higher clocks.