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asmith said:Miro has a special on the Grandstream BT101's right now, I think its about R390. But it is a really basic phone. If you want a nice phone try the SPA941 which is about R950.
Roman4604 said:I'd say go for the Grandstream, I've tested most the SIP phones avaliable in the R700-R400 range and all you going to get is a few Chinese OEM phones that are all junk.
Hardware yes, firmware no ... and thats the big difference.renm said:you think Grandstream is not chinese junk?
Not that this has anything to do with recommending a good SIP phone, but yes I do understand what OEM means in the strictest sense. However in the context of SIP phones many refer to low-cost unbranded (but full functional i.e. hw+fw) units avaliable at the distribution level as OEM.renm said:do you really know what does OEM stand for and exactly mean? pls googy or wiki yourself. Manufactures don't make firmware.
I'm sorry you're so touchy about my inclusion of the country of origin, or possibly the use of the word junk (which I would use to refer to any uncompetitive product whether it be from SA, Germany or anywhere else). If it will make you feel better, I retract my previous statement and replace it with a more politically correct version ...renm said:i'd love to buy such junk if SAniese can make them, at leaset we don't have to wait for stock and will save a lot on shiping
your talking definitely based on nationality, don't tell me the word chinese is kind of performance, is it?
from how you messed up the concept between unbrand and OEM, you know ABSOLUTE nothing about OEMRoman4604 said:... but yes I do understand what OEM means ...
Roman4604 said:... from US based vendors are superior to unbranded units from far-east based vendors.
Roman4604 said:Your responses have nothing to do with discussing the merits of various SIP phone models and vendors, and it looks like you're just interested in playing word games.
I'm sure this is getting tedious for all ... so please remove chip from sholder & move on.
I will not be responding to any of your further rambling ... so asta la vista dude.
I think you'd get more response by starting a new thread. Skype Phone NOT= SIP Phone ... very different protocols.albert123 said:so anybody want to comment on the phones on
http://www.skypephones.co.za/default.asp?pageID=308600928&Category=5
please?
Roman4604 said:I think you'd get more response by starting a new thread. Skype Phone NOT= SIP Phone ... very different protocols.