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Thread: I hate HTML

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    Default I hate HTML

    So I have been in Silverlight development for the last couple years, barely ever touching website stuff. Before that I was a web developer.
    Now today I started making a little site to allow people to RSVP to my wedding - and I am SHOCKED at how ****ty HTML is.

    Ok, so before I get hated, I know it's powerful and all that, but have you guys used XAML? I am talking only about the layout engine, not the technology.

    And it's just simple stuff, like creating a stack of items, or having a block and centering it. The fact that there are 362million google results for "center a div" is telling (and yes, very unreliable as a metric).

    In XAML, to align any UIElement in it's parent container you simply set: "VerticalAlignment=Center/Top/Bottom" and "HorizontalAlignment=Center,Left,Right". And to stack a bunch of elements up you just enclose them in: "<StackPanel>" and you can set it to horizontal or vertical.

    Added to that the binding capabilities which put HTML 5 to shame - I just don't get why HTML is such a horrible language.

    /rant
    Ok, now tell me how much I suck
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    I'm not a web developer and since I mostly work in C# these days, I got to agree.

    I wish it was possible to make websites in XAML. Maybe just because I'm used to it... but it's so much easier to accomplish a proper layout compared to HTML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokkie Dans View Post
    Why would you try to "center a div" with HTML?. We use Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) for that

    div {
    margin: 0 auto;
    }
    Well, erm, because I have a div that I want in the middle of something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguemat View Post
    Ok, now tell me how much I suck
    I think you forgot to mention how much HTML sucks.
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    It's even worse if you want you center it vertically.

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    <center><div>a</div></center>

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    Quote Originally Posted by froot View Post
    I think you forgot to mention how much HTML sucks.
    I think you missed every line before that :P
    If I did truly say what I felt about it there might be a lot more ****
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    HTML5 + CSS + javascript - use the whole package.
    HTML without CSS is pretty useless, I agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by joelus View Post
    HTML5 + CSS + javascript - use the whole package.
    HTML without CSS is pretty useless, I agree
    I apologize for not being clear - I am talking about the combination.
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    Wait, you are a Silverlight developer.. and you hate HTML?

    I can think of worse things to hate - like Silverlight.

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    HTML 5 + CSS 3 + Jquery will give any front end developer a run for their money (If you know what you are doing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scudsucker View Post
    Wait, you are a Silverlight developer.. and you hate HTML?

    I can think of worse things to hate - like Silverlight.
    +infinity - I've had to deal with getting some of our web apps away off silverlight now for a while - it's a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scudsucker View Post
    Wait, you are a Silverlight developer.. and you hate HTML?

    I can think of worse things to hate - like Silverlight.
    if you are able to read you would see that I clearly stated that I am just comparing the layout languages, NOT the technology behind them...
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    Layout is easy with some CSS... Here's a beginner's article for you:
    http://designshack.net/articles/css/...hing-with-css/

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    Silverlight? Seriously?

    HTML5 is far from being finished and the language is becoming more dependant on CSS.

    Open standards FTW!

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