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Thread: Unrestricted APN Needed ?

  1. #31

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    Hi

    I suggest the following: activate InternetVPN on the sim card in the router/ modem you are using and change APN to InternetVPN. Connect and try whatever you are trying to do and see if it works. If you have tried that already, then ignore this message. Many friends try to do funny things that I dont understand but I found that the InternetVPN has sorted out most of their problems.

    I doubt you will get any joy using the internet apn.

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    I found it in a config test example
    Don't believe everything you read on the Internet
    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    Assumed as it was an example it could be used -- my bad
    As I understand a loopback -- it allows you to access the router if there is a problem with a hardware interface ?
    IF I understand correctly the IP I am using on loopback0 is not being used outside the router ?
    This is only relevant if you are running a network with multiple routers and an IGP like EIRGP, IS-IS or OSPF.

    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    What do you propose I change it to ( atm I only need it accessible to my own network -- private) ?
    Set it to 127.0.0.1 to avoid breaking anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    Code:
    Cellular0/0/0 is administratively down, line protocol is down
    
    Dialer0 is administratively down, line protocol is down
    If the interfaces are down then obviously nothing will work.

    We still have zero clarity on what's not working.
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  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket-Boy View Post
    My guess is that this thread will end in silence when the OP realises the problem is on his side.
    Im not so sure what the massive need for PAT is, surely you only have access to one external IP and therefore normal NAT would be sufficient?
    We're all talking about the same thing when we refer to PAT and NAT. PAT is the slightly more correct term but functionally it is the same as the 'NAT' that most consumer routers use.
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  4. #34

    Arrow Up & UP

    Quote Originally Posted by ambo View Post
    We're all talking about the same thing when we refer to PAT and NAT.
    PAT is the slightly more correct term but functionally it is the same as the 'NAT' that most consumer routers use.
    Hi ,
    Everything is up & up ( earlier output was from a test )
    Following suggestions I have removed the loopback interface
    I have changed the list that brings up the dialer ( simplified )
    I have checked other access lists ( someone thought that they might be interfering with traffic)

    I can bring up the dialer from the PC -- no problem
    Logging shows that traffic is passing without any blocking

    Code:
    Fangorn#
    
    Dialer brought up from PC
    *Jul 23 11:36:00.058 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.220.59.189, 1 packet
    
    
    
    Access to DNS servers allowed
    Fangorn#
    *Jul 23 11:36:01.058 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.43.1.14, 1 packet
    
    *Jul 23 11:36:02.058 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.220.59.188, 1 packet
    
    
    
    Dialer coming up
    *Jul 23 11:36:02.250 SAST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Cellular0/0/0, changed state to up
    *Jul 23 11:36:02.250 SAST: %DIALER-6-BIND: Interface Ce0/0/0 bound to profile Di0
    Fangorn#
    *Jul 23 11:36:02.322 SAST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Cellular0/0/0, changed state to up
    
    
    
    Another DNS server
    Fangorn#
    *Jul 23 11:36:04.058 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.43.38.190, 1 packet
    
    
    Fangorn#sh ip route
    Codes: L - local, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
           D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
           N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
           E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
           i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2
           ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static route
           o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route, + - replicated route
    
    Gateway of last resort is 0.0.0.0 to network 0.0.0.0
    
    S*    0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Dialer0
          41.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
    C        41.8.4.92 is directly connected, Dialer0
          192.168.40.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
    C        192.168.40.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
    L        192.168.40.3/32 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
    Fangorn#
    Code:
    
    Traffic on the connected dialer interface with IP as allocated above
    
    Fangorn#
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 10.17.15.11 -> 41.9.249.255, 3 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.9.249.255 -> 196.207.35.29, 8 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 196.207.35.29 -> 41.9.249.255, 8 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.9.249.255 -> 196.25.1.200, 43 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 10.242.202.2 -> 41.9.249.255, 2 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 196.207.35.36 -> 41.9.249.255, 2 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 196.207.35.244 -> 41.9.249.255, 2 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.0.148.1 -> 41.9.249.255, 2 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.0.144.5 -> 41.9.249.255, 3 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 196.25.91.61 -> 41.9.249.255, 2 packets
    
    
    Internal interface trying to get to DNS again
    
    Fangorn#
    *Jul 23 11:41:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.220.59.189, 1 packet
    *Jul 23 11:41:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.43.1.14, 1 packet
    *Jul 23 11:41:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 196.220.59.188, 1 packet
    *Jul 23 11:41:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.26 -> 4.2.2.3, 1 packet
    WHO are ........

    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.0.148.1 -> 41.9.249.255, 2 packets
    *Jul 23 11:37:47.194 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.0.144.5 -> 41.9.249.255, 3 packets

    That look like they are broadcasting ? ESSR ??????


    As far as I ( moi ) can work out things are OK on my side ??????

  5. #35

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    That's probably someone doing some kind of scan...

    Are your inside machines able to access the net now?

  6. #36

    Arrow Scanning -- NOT !

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbad View Post
    That's probably someone doing some kind of scan...
    Are your inside machines able to access the net now?
    NO
    Those are ALL Voda addresses -- I do not see "my" address 41.8.4.92 in those logs anywhere
    [Edit]
    196.25.1.200 is saix.net
    196.25.x.x is normally a Telkom / SAIX IP
    196.43.x.190 is normally Telkom / SAIX DNS
    It looks to me like an internal ping-pong on the Voda drum
    But anyway what do I know -- I know nothing about Cisco or IP ! )
    http://en.ntunhs.net/IPInfo/EN/41/0.htm
    [/Edit]
    NO
    Until I get a second public INTERFACE /32 IP address I will NEVER be able to

    THIS is the absolute main crucial point that I NOT getting any feedback on !
    Last edited by b@nD; 23-07-2012 at 01:00 PM. Reason: Add Info

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    NO
    Those are ALL Voda addresses -- I do not see "my" address 41.8.4.92 in those logs anywhere
    NO
    Until I get a second public INTERFACE /32 IP address I will NEVER be able to
    You only get one IP and you NAT/PAT everything behind that... surely?
    Code:
    C        41.8.4.92 is directly connected, Dialer0
    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    THIS is the absolute main crucial point that I NOT getting any feedback on !
    You still haven't provided the trace from the router that I requested:
    Code:
    traceroute 8.8.8.8
    Last edited by ambo; 23-07-2012 at 01:02 PM.
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  8. #38

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    [QUOTE=ambo;8620851]
    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    NO
    Those are ALL Voda addresses -- I do not see "my" address 41.8.4.92 in those logs anywhere
    NO
    Until I get a second public INTERFACE /32 IP address I will NEVER be able to
    You only get one IP and you NAT/PAT everything behind that... surely?
    Code:
    C        41.8.4.92 is directly connected, Dialer0
    You still haven't provided the trace from the router that I requested:
    Code:
    traceroute 8.8.8.8

    You don't need a second IP.
    The whole point of overload NAT is that your traffic appears to come from the dialer0 interface.

    turn on debug ip nat and show us the output?
    Last edited by Sinbad; 23-07-2012 at 01:00 PM.

  9. #39

    Arrow One ring to bind them all

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbad View Post
    You don't need a second IP.
    I am afraid it looks like you DO
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbad View Post
    The whole point of overload NAT is that your traffic appears to come from the dialer0 interface.
    turn on debug ip nat and show us the output?
    One for the GATEWAY -- One for the INTERFACE !

    Dialer0 is the GATEWAY ................

  10. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    I am afraid it looks like you DO

    One for the GATEWAY -- One for the INTERFACE !
    Nope. Never ever seen an interface needing two IPs before.
    Do me a favour - take the hardcoded ip route 0.0.0.0 out of your config and let the router do the routing itself? It might be that you need the next hop to be the PPP peer rather than your own interface.

  11. #41

    Question Traceroute

    As requested -- ...........
    Code:
    Fangorn#traceroute 8.8.8.8
    
    Type escape sequence to abort.
    Tracing the route to
    *Jul 23 13:05:25.661 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 192.168.40.3 -> 196.207.35.29, 1 packet
    *Jul 23 13:05:27.853 SAST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Cellular0/0/0, changed state to up
    *Jul 23 13:05:27.853 SAST: %DIALER-6-BIND: Interface Ce0/0/0 bound to profile Di0
    *Jul 23 13:05:27.917 SAST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Cellular0/0/0, changed state to up
    *Jul 23 13:05:31.661 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.12.2.129 -> 196.207.35.29, 1 packet
    *Jul 23 13:05:34.661 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.12.2.129 -> 196.207.35.30, 1 packet  8.8.8.8
    
      1
    *Jul 23 13:05:43.661 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 41.12.2.129 -> 8.8.8.8, 1 packet   *  *  *
      2  *  *  *
      3  *  *  *
      4  *  *  *
      5  *  *  *
      6  *
    
    *Jul 23 13:06:31.781 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 217.163.45.253 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  te-9-2.car5.London1.Level3.net (217.163.45.253) 312 msec 608 msec
      7 ae-11-51.car1.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.66) 276 msec 300 msec 280 msec
      8
    *Jul 23 13:06:32.981 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 196.207.35.29 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  195.50.118.210 372 msec 276 msec 268 msec
      9
    *Jul 23 13:06:35.189 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 195.50.118.210 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  209.85.255.76 280 msec 312 msec 520 msec
     10
    *Jul 23 13:06:36.541 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 209.85.255.76 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  209.85.253.94 [MPLS: Label 307850 Exp 4] 300 msec
        209.85.253.196 [MPLS: Label 796428 Exp 4] 300 msec
    
    *Jul 23 13:06:38.273 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 209.85.253.94 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  209.85.253.90 [MPLS: Label 771740 Exp 4] 300 msec
     11
    *Jul 23 13:06:39.913 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 209.85.253.90 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  66.249.95.173 [MPLS: Label 572349 Exp 4] 328 msec
        72.14.232.134 [MPLS: Label 497875 Exp 4] 620 msec
        66.249.95.173 [MPLS: Label 598381 Exp 4] 300 msec
     12
    *Jul 23 13:06:41.761 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 72.14.232.134 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet  209.85.251.231 280 msec 288 msec 280 msec
     13
    *Jul 23 13:06:43.001 SAST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list 1 permitted 0 209.85.251.231 -> 41.12.2.129, 1 packet   *  *  *
     14  *  *  *
     15  *  *  *
     16  *  *  *
     17  *  *  *
     18  *  *  *
     19  *  *  *
     20  *
    Should be able to work out something from those MPLS labels -- should I go look them up now ????

    LONDON again -- got to be those DAMN Olympics

  12. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    As requested -- ...........

    Should be able to work out something from those MPLS labels -- should I go look them up now ????

    LONDON again -- got to be those DAMN Olympics
    Sheesh, you like to overcomplicate things!

    MPLS labels aren't relevant.

    debug ip nat :P

  13. #43

    Question TWO

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbad View Post
    Nope. Never ever seen an interface needing two IPs before.
    Do me a favour - take the hardcoded ip route 0.0.0.0 out of your config and let the router do the routing itself?
    It might be that you need the next hop to be the PPP peer rather than your own interface.
    There are TWO interfaces -- FA0/0 & Dialer0 // Dialer0 is the gateway FA0/0 is the Interface

    OK

    0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 is the IP as well as the mask
    So what do you want me to make the IP route statement ?

    WHICH ip nat debug ?

    Fangorn#debug ip nat ?
    <1-99> Access list
    cce NAT-CCE support events
    detailed NAT detailed events
    fragment NAT fragment events
    generic NAT generic ALG handler events
    h323 NAT H.323 events
    ipsec NAT IPSec events
    multipart NAT Multipart support events
    nvi NVI events
    piggyback NAT Piggyback support events
    port NAT PORT events
    pptp NAT PPTP events
    route NAT Static route events
    sbc NAT SIP Session Border Controller events
    sip NAT SIP events
    skinny NAT skinny events
    vrf NAT VRF events
    wlan-nat WLAN NAT events
    <cr>
    ==============
    Unless you are trying to tell me that NAT cannot have an access-list above 99 ??????
    You can have named NAT access-lists using route-maps !
    Last edited by b@nD; 23-07-2012 at 01:22 PM.

  14. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@nD View Post
    There are TWO interfaces -- FA0/0 & Dialer0 // Dialer0 is the gateway FA0/0 is the Interface

    OK

    0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 is the IP as well as the mask
    So what do you want me to make the IP route statement ?
    take it out totally.

    FA0/0 is your INTERNAL interface. Your ethernet interface. That must have an address in your private space - which it does.
    Di0 is also an interface - it gets the public IP address, and establishes a point-to-point like with the PPP server at the other end.

  15. #45

    Arrow Interfaces

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbad View Post
    take it out totally.
    FA0/0 is your INTERNAL interface. Your ethernet interface. That must have an address in your private space - which it does.
    Di0 is also an interface - it gets the public IP address, and establishes a point-to-point like with the PPP server at the other end.
    Let me belabour my point / observation
    This from an ADSL router
    Code:
    Erebor#sh ip route
    Codes: C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
           D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
           N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
           E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
           i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2
           ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static route
           o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route
    
    Gateway of last resort is 0.0.0.0 to network 0.0.0.0
    
    C    192.168.30.0/24 is directly connected, Vlan6
    C    192.168.10.0/24 is directly connected, Vlan2
    C    192.168.20.0/24 is directly connected, Vlan4
         41.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 4 subnets
    C       41.185.170.1 is directly connected, Dialer1
    C       41.146.12.231 is directly connected, Dialer2
    C       41.185.170.76 is directly connected, Dialer1
    C       41.146.0.1 is directly connected, Dialer2
    S*   0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Dialer1
                   is directly connected, Dialer2
    Erebor#
    WHAT does this indicate ??????

    C 41.185.170.1 is directly connected, Dialer1
    C 41.146.12.231 is directly connected, Dialer2
    C 41.185.170.76 is directly connected, Dialer1
    C 41.146.0.1 is directly connected, Dialer2

    WOULD you say that that was ONE or TWO public IP addresses ?

    One the gateway is GIVEN by ppp ( in this case I assume the interface of the ISP equipment you are attaching to which is actually going to route you )
    One you set ( the INSIDE interface ) which is natted to show here a public IP address

    When I say TWO I am including the gateway address

    So possibly I am being given an INTERFACE address by Bra Voda but NOT a WORKING router GATEWAY address ???

    Either way without BOTH // NOTHING is going to happen !

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