Sentech to Launch New MyWi packages

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Sentech to phase out existing packages - 1 Aug

Word has it that Sentech is about to Launch an entire new range of MyWi packages effective 1 August.
Although the details are sketchy, the existing 3 packages will slowly be phased out.
No longer will MyWi be sold according to speed (all the new packages are
the same speed, reportedly in excess of 256K but less than 512K).
The entry level package will go for about R150 per month, but Sentech will
now introduce strict capping.
Once you reach your cap, per meg pricing will automatically kick in.
Prices of R1 per meg have been mentioned.
Expect an official statement any day now.
 
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Sentech couldn't deliver the speed of their products.(eg: MyWireless 512K).
That's why their names has to be changed! :)
 
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If they start capping, Telkom will be receiving an ADSL order.

R1/MB is ridiculous.
 
Nevertheless, if for a R150 I can get 3 GB per month at 64 kbps guaranteed, it may just be tempting.
But that's probably wishful thinking. It will probably be more like 500 MB per month for the entry level.
 
In summary:
This new MyWi business model is based on the current cellular Data offering (as sold by MTN and Vodacom)
but is intended to be at a much reduced rate.
Sentech plan to market this to the 1 million users in the country who currently use Dial-Up.... yet want 24/7 for under R200.
 
Are they obliged to uphold the contract I have with them until it expires in December? Or do they have some clause in it stating that they can change their minds whenever they want, much like Telkom?
 
the only reason i'm staying with sentech is their high cap, so if they change the conditions of my contract, they will see it get terminated very quickly...
(unless i would perceive those changes to be in my benefit, but what are the chances)
 
The major barrier to entry to these kind of products is the cost of the modem - few "dial-up" users will consider converting if they have to fork out MegaBucks for equipment that is getting outdated at a furious pace.

If I could get a decent service guarantee, a modem at say 2 months cost, and 500MB pm for around R150, it would make Rand-and-sents sence to convert my parents' dial-up to MyWi. Otherwise not.

The cell phone people are struggling to get clients on 2 year contracts away from hellish expensive pre-paid. Why would masses of low level internet users sign a long term contract for a "free modem" ?
 
im with iburst,a provider that does not reposnd, and nothing would get me to move to another provider that doesnt respond. until its client support stop been anti client. Ill stay with the devil I know.
 
dbnnet said:
In summary:
This new MyWi business model is based on the current cellular Data offering (as sold by MTN and Vodacom)
but is intended to be at a much reduced rate.
Sentech plan to market this to the 1 million users in the country who currently use Dial-Up.... yet want 24/7 for under R200.

What is concerning to me is that dialup users won't just switch because of the price. I've spoken to several hundred people and their reason for staying with a dialup service is because they can control the cost.

Most noteably, they're not technically inclined and only download email. So with Sentech's automatic R1 per meg (which is even more than MTN/Vodacom is charging per meg as far as I know!) the user conveniently has a 24/7 connection, and has some trojan or whatever sending out g0d knows what,racking up a bill over several hundred (or even thousand) rand.

My cousin (still working on his poor soul to get better internet) says he never spends more than R60 on dialup and doesn't need more than that. He's a techie...

So again, Sentech has done half arsed "market research" and thinks they can fool more people into a service. I don't think so. While I have breath in my body, I will always recommend something else.

Heck, compared to my internet experience with both Sentech and iBurst, dialup is much faster and more reliable than anything (except ADSL of course)

R1 per meg? HA! That's a R1000 per gig. If you take that normal sensible people pay around R20 per gig (those normal sensible people using ADSL of course) Sentech is overpricing their offering by several thousand percent!

Hell, those with Sentech needs some serious KY jelly....
 
Oh and for those folks that think I'm a w@nker and doesn't have any influence, I am a senior consultant, we do outsourcing for people like didata, siebel, massmart, standard bank, absa etc. Even been approached by M$

So I will spread the seed my friends. You screw with uneducated users, I educate them. Knowledge is power... and Sentech's laughable "marketing research" will certainly be question again.
 
:mad:

And I thought it would be uncapped 24x7 connectivity.

(cue Gollum)
Thief! Thief! Thief! Caps! We hates it, we hates it, we hates it forever! :D

Now Sentech's off my list, and I'll stick with Telkom for now. No sense in going over to something capped for which you'll have to pay an arm and leg once capped.

If they think that I'm stupid, then sorry, but no go.

Regards

Librarian
 
R1 per meg? HA! That's a R1000 per gig. If you take that normal sensible people pay around R20 per gig (those normal sensible people using ADSL of course) Sentech is overpricing their offering by several thousand percent!
And where does that leave other well know players that charge R10 per meg after the cap.
As much as I'm against it, after a recent survey amongst the 5 biggest players it was noted currently 8% of users occupy 80% of ALL currently available bandwidth.
This year its predicted 40,000 new users will be entering the 24/7 market and in the next 2 years 470,000.
Now with all the current bandwidth already used up what can be done to accomodate all these new users, it does not take much to figure that one out.
Yes currently a fixed line is a ray of hope, but its going to be short lived.

As I say I'm dead against it all but when you see all these facts in front of you its very scary to say the least.

In conclusion, if SA does not get more bandwidth then current ADSL and all other options will become nothing but a past luxury.

Sad but true :(
 
Collusion

ProAsm said:
And where does that leave other well know players that charge R10 per meg after the cap.
As much as I'm against it, after a recent survey amongst the 5 biggest players it was noted currently 8% of users occupy 80% of ALL currently available bandwidth.
This year its predicted 40,000 new users will be entering the 24/7 market and in the next 2 years 470,000.
Now with all the current bandwidth already used up what can be done to accomodate all these new users, it does not take much to figure that one out.
Yes currently a fixed line is a ray of hope, but its going to be short lived.

As I say I'm dead against it all but when you see all these facts in front of you its very scary to say the least.

In conclusion, if SA does not get more bandwidth then current ADSL and all other options will become nothing but a past luxury.

Sad but true :(

I think what the players will do is collude on the caps/offerings, to protect there industry.
We have already seen WBS and Sentech following Telkoms lead in its offerings, WRT speeds/cap/bandwidth/localcap and are hearing rumours about local access.
WBS and SENTECH are now both talking payper byte.
If those figures of 80% bandwidth being utilized by 8% are 100% correct then, that is one option left to them-- until we get more national/international pipe.
It is IMO the absolute worse thing that could happen!!!
that will see braodband reduced to something totally pathetic.

That will Kill free market spirit and starts to sound like "cartel" and 'price control"
 
Simple Twist Of Fate said:
If those figures of 80% bandwidth being utilized
by 8% are 100% correct
Another statistic that I have been made aware of, is that of these 8%,
(using up to 80% of the bandwidth), a large majority of them are constantly
downloading porn.
Some ISP's have had no alternative, but to report customers to the police
(now a legal requirement) as some of this downloading is clearly "under age" material.
 
Then all sorts of pr0n should be outlawed.

IMO pr0n is not freedom of speech, it's breaking down women's rights (and children's rights in the case of kiddie pr0n), and it's addictive to boot.

Pigs will fly should all sorts of pr0n be outlawed, but one can only hope...
 
no porn!

Hang on just one minute! I beleive in privacy, what people do in thier homes is thier own business. Just the way that what you do with your bandwidth is also your own business.

So whether I download porn or linux iso's all day, traffic is traffic.

We are paying alot of money for our GBs and I speak for a lot of people when I say, we pay, we choose.

Network abuse is similiar to prostitute abuse, there is no such thing, just as long as you pay!
 
ProAsm said:
And where does that leave other well know players that charge R10 per meg after the cap.
As much as I'm against it, after a recent survey amongst the 5 biggest players it was noted currently 8% of users occupy 80% of ALL currently available bandwidth.
This year its predicted 40,000 new users will be entering the 24/7 market and in the next 2 years 470,000.
Now with all the current bandwidth already used up what can be done to accomodate all these new users, it does not take much to figure that one out.
Yes currently a fixed line is a ray of hope, but its going to be short lived.

As I say I'm dead against it all but when you see all these facts in front of you its very scary to say the least.

In conclusion, if SA does not get more bandwidth then current ADSL and all other options will become nothing but a past luxury.

Sad but true :(

Care to tell me which provider asks R10 per meg these days? With the bandwidth rates dropping for the cellular market, why has Sentech chosen to emulate THEM and not Telkom regarding bandwidth?

Because their marketing research is up to ****. You can ask arf that anyday
 
dbnnet said:
Another statistic that I have been made aware of, is that of these 8%,
(using up to 80% of the bandwidth), a large majority of them are constantly
downloading porn.
Some ISP's have had no alternative, but to report customers to the police
(now a legal requirement) as some of this downloading is clearly "under age" material.

And how does Sentech know that these people are downloading porn and are underage? As far as I am concerned they shouldn't even be doing this... and how could they, you need to sign a CONTRACT and a CREDIT CHECK done against you just to get the service?

You don't have the legal right to sign any legal binding contract (that says you're going to pay xyz to zyx) without your mommy or daddy signing it as well if you're under 21. (Might be 18)

So the moment anyone gets busted by the police for doing what they want in the privacy of their own home and using their internet connection for what they want and not what another person or company thinks they need to use it for, let us know, so we can murder Sentech
 
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