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Internet Solutions to register domains directly with ICANN
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agreed.
Roo!
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Definitely not true but clearly IS think they're special now.
Oh but they are! Their mantra is "I IS speshell"
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Not through a local company and people prefer to deal with local trusted companies and many people are also put off when it comes to paying in dollars. The actual propagation or going "live" can take anywhere from 4 to 24 hours or more in certain cases and is not something you can really get around.
Technically domains are registered with the registrar itself (IS in this case) and is then put into a single registry managed by ICANN or a subsidiary. With IS being as large as it is they could very well be awarded the ability to do this.
Nonsense. I register .com domains every week, and they're "live" immediately.
Same here! They are normally live and accessible minutes after the registration has gone through.
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Ask your customers if they can all get to them immediately.
Prometheus,
The closest ICANN comes to managing a 'registry' of any kind is www.iana.org. ICANN does not have subsidaries.
ICANN does not manage a Registry.
If you think my above statement is incorrect, please let me know which registry you think ICANN manages?
They would be if you made the dns entry - in my experience propagation can take anything up to 24 hours depending on the dns server the person initiating the request uses. Of course IS registering domains will have little effect on that.
Why do I need to ask my clients? Do you think I wouldn't test a new domain myself?
The account is created on my server, the domain is registered with my nameservers, and the domain is live *immediately*.
You don't know what you're talking about, Prom.
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co.za Domain queries on port 43
So when are we going to have a web site or organisation that can supply domain queries on port 43.
I have a php application that I tried to use on a web site, "she don't work"
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Are we going to wage the co.za domain war forever.
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So when are we going to have a web site or organisation that can supply domain queries on port 43.
I have a php application that I tried to use on a web site, "she don't work"
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Are we going to wage the co.za domain war forever.
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you should ask them?
The fact that Uniforum hasn't implemented a port 43 whois server can be frustrating with certain software... but there's usually a way around it. (On my website, for example, I use a simple php routine to check for available .co.za domains, and it works without problems.)
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Orange, the registries I am talking about are the central ones where all DNS servers get their information from.
The registrars (like IS) which manages what goes into and out of these registries are completely separate from these and pay a huge amount to ICANN for the privilege.
The registries can be managed by ICANN or more likely a subsidiary company or a company this is delegated to. There can only be one registry per domain if you want to avoid chaos and in either case ICANN has ultimate control over them.
I hate to disappoint you but to A LOT of people your "live" domain is inaccessible for up to 24 hours and in my experience even longer. You are welcome to test this by going to a few isps after you registered your "live" domain. As usual don't be so quick with your "knowledge".
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such as? The hints file? one of the root server instances? Please be specific.
Again - I need to make this very clear - ICANN do not manage any registries (apart from, arguably, the IANA). And ICANN most certainly does not have any subsidiary companies (if you believe I'm wrong here, please name these companies).
Agreed on your first part, but the second is just wrong. ICANN does not have utlimate control of most registries out there.
If you believe I'm wrong, please let me know which registries you believe ICANN has control over (Aside from IANA), as I'm very interested in this notion......
Prom -- as with bullfrog, who posted earlier in this thread, it is part of my business to register domains for my clients. You will notice that bullfrog agreed with me that the .com domains we register for our clients "are normally live and accessible minutes after the registration has gone through".
It is foolish of you to debate the point with people who do this for a living. You do not know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea how DNS works, or why it is .co.za domains can take up to 24 hours before they are live, or how it is that .com domains can be live immediately.
It would perhaps be wise for you to limit your posts to the philosophical subforum, so that most of us can ignore your overwhelming ignorance and frequent untruths.
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Why not mention the people that disagreed with your comment?
As said you are welcome to try it by registering a domain and seeing if everyone can access it within minutes. Clearly there are people who disagree with you and therefor your statement about it being "live" is not a very valid one. Don't try to blow it off as usual. If you think it is incorrect then show us that every person in the world would immediately be able to access the domain as per your statement.