Addiction advice thread

[HyperBudgie]

... like bipolar?

Exactly...

 

[j3n0va]

Does addiction to porn also count?

. . . just asking

Yes it does. last week we had a Drug counselor give us a talk. He told us about a guy who managed to get off his addiction to heroin but then they found out he'd replaced it with an addiction to porn. like during his work breaks he was....:erm:... ya.. it was a constant thing. He was even skipping work for it He told us that one can become addicted to basically anything, not just drugs. Scary stuff

I just know I'd love them :/ The way Bipolar Dude described the feeling that Heroin gives you... Wow... Who wouldn't want that???

I felt the same way

 

[Sensorei]

Once an addict, always an addict. The drug use is a symptom of addiction, not the cause. Once an addict is off the drugs, finding a balance in life is never easy and other addictions/obsessions can easily make life unmanageable. Addiction is a state of mind but it can be beaten. Although it doesn't take much to slip right back. Eish. Oh and I do speak from experience I was also diagnosed with ADHD but I have that under control after years of working at it but shew it was a b1tch when I was a kid.

BipolarDude.ADHD congrats on the clean time. Heroin is as hard as it gets. Its sad that so few ppl make it out alive.

 

[HyperBudgie]

BipolarDude.ADHD congrats on the clean time. Heroin is as hard as it gets. Its sad that so few ppl make it out alive.

4 of my "friends" died in the space of 6 months due to H overdoses and another died trying to come clean "cold turkey"....Went into seizures and had a heart attack...He was 19.

 

[Peder]

wow bipolardude.ADHD congrats on being clean for soo many years, i have seen how it can affect people.

I think more people should come out and say they were an addict cause i mean most don't know the dangers of these things, i think its mostly in our nature to be curious but if you can get someone to explain it to you it helps allot.

 

[HyperBudgie]

wow bipolardude.ADHD congrats on being clean for soo many years, i have seen how it can affect people.

I think more people should come out and say they were an addict cause i mean most don't know the dangers of these things, i think its mostly in our nature to be curious but if you can get someone to explain it to you it helps allot.

Thats why I started this thread...In the hopes of talking about addiction and maybe someone can learn from my mistakes...Its a little selfish of me but it makes me feel good to chat about the dangers associated with drug abuse...

 

[porn$tar]

Thats why I started this thread...In the hopes of talking about addiction and maybe someone can learn from my mistakes...Its a little selfish of me but it makes me feel good to chat about the dangers associated with drug abuse...

Have you thought about going around to schools and talking to students about drug addiction?

 

[Peder]

Thats why I started this thread...In the hopes of talking about addiction and maybe someone can learn from my mistakes...Its a little selfish of me but it makes me feel good to chat about the dangers associated with drug abuse...

why does it make you selfish? its not as if you are expecting people to feel sorry for you but rather want to teach people the dangers and thats the opposite of selfish.

 

[Dolby]

Have you thought about going around to schools and talking to students about drug addiction?

That helps nothing, unfortunatly.

Everyone says education helps, but I see it being pretty worthless tbh.

 

[scotty777]

That helps nothing, unfortunatly.

Everyone says education helps, but I see it being pretty worthless tbh.

yeah, my school had some guy come over and talk to us about drugs, that didn't help us, we still got people doing Acid, taking Speed, smoking weed, snorting cocaine, and so on...

Wanna know some thing that will make you laugh, I go to a catholic school . Seems like in these times, if kids are bored they do drugs, and if their parents are rich, they do hard drugs.

 

[HyperBudgie]

Have you thought about going around to schools and talking to students about drug addiction?

Yup...Just don't have the time though..

 

[blunomore]

I took time to read the entire thread.

FASCINATING insights, thanks very much for sharing BipolarDude.

 

[HyperBudgie]

Kids are tough...They know everything and if you try warn them they might just go out and test you...Just to see if you were lying or not...Need a really cool different and agressive aproach...

 

[HyperBudgie]

I took time to read the entire thread.

FASCINATING insights, thanks very much for sharing BipolarDude.

No worries..

 

[Nanfeishen]

Nice thread Bipolardude, as an ex-user i can empathise quite well.
Started on grass at 15, and popped a huge amount of pills through my teen years, mainly amphetamines, then drinking on top of all that and non-stop clubbing right up to my call up.
Managed to drop the pills, (mainly because they became harder to get) but still drank and smoked a lot through to 35, then all hell broke loose.
Didnt get into the H, but was bad into the "rocks", took a lot of strength to ween myself off the things.
Changed my entire personality, became agressive, argumentative, really bad, spent a flipping fortune, almost every cent i made, then realised i had a major problem after I almost stabbed a guy with a pen for pissing me off.
The problem with me is i have an experimental type personality, got to try things, and that was always my downfall.
Eventually got to the point where i had to come clean or go down, and lucky for me i did, realised i had way too much to lose if i didnt.
Lost an old friend of many years from the damn things as well (heart attack).

One day at a time, going on for just over 5 years.

 

[HyperBudgie]

One day at a time, going on for just over 5 years.

Well done dude...It's easier coming clean than it is staying clean....One day at a time for sure...Remember once an addict always an addict...Our chemical make-up in our brains have been altered and we can easilly get addicted to almost anything...

 

[Nanfeishen]

.Our chemical make-up in our brains have been altered and we can easilly get addicted to almost anything...

So true.
I am currently trying to understand that. The what and how of alteration, by reading a lot on the subject, trying to find what it is about certain brain types that create or formulate the imbalance in the first place.
I found from looking at my friends at the time, that many were actually highly intelligent people, with above average IQ's although many were also in positions or circumstance in life that prevented them from actually exploring their potential in greater detail.
i.e. got bored with formal education and left school or dropped out, not from the drugs themselves, most often before they started.
I often wonder if they had had the right opportunities to actually exploit their intelligence if they would have gone down the same roads.

 

[HyperBudgie]

So true.
I am currently trying to understand that. The what and how of alteration, by reading a lot on the subject, trying to find what it is about certain brain types that create or formulate the imbalance in the first place.
I found from looking at my friends at the time, that many were actually highly intelligent people, with above average IQ's although many were also in positions or circumstance in life that prevented them from actually exploring their potential in greater detail.
i.e. got bored with formal education and left school or dropped out, not from the drugs themselves, most often before they started.
I often wonder if they had had the right opportunities to actually exploit their intelligence if they would have gone down the same roads.

I found the same thing...All the addicts I've known have either been highly intellegent or gifted in other ways such as music and art....

My Bipolar was probably the main cause of me becoming addicted to heroin...I was suffering from a seriously suicidal bout of bipolar depression at the time...I knew about heroin addiction and one of my best mates was an addict....I wanted the pain to stop...I wanted to either die or feel nothing at all...Heroin offered me both opportunities...I became an addict on purpose...i knew the life expectancy of a main-lining heroin addict was about 2 years and figured that would be long enough for me to quietly fade away and die...

 

[Nanfeishen]

My Bipolar was probably the main cause of me becoming addicted to heroin...I was suffering from a seriously suicidal bout of bipolar depression at the time...I knew about heroin addiction and one of my best mates was an addict....I wanted the pain to stop...I wanted to either die or feel nothing at all...Heroin offered me both opportunities...I became an addict on purpose...i knew the life expectancy of a main-lining heroin addict was about 2 years and figured that would be long enough for me to quietly fade away and die...

Wow, thats rough man, glad you are still with us though

Do you still suffer bouts of depression?

 

[HyperBudgie]

Wow, thats rough man, glad you are still with us though

Do you still suffer bouts of depression?

I get bouts of depression and mania from time to time..but I'm on Lithium, which is a mood stabilizer and keeps the episodes mild and managable.
I've also had loads of therapy and have learned to read the signs and can stop an episode before it gets hectic...Not easy...But the Lithium has enabled me to live a normal life.