Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt2)

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Surely it would depend on where eskom is hosting its site and their routing?
That routing that he posted sure ain't normal.... here's mine (the fact that we both have German versions of Windows is a funny coincidence):

Routenverfolgung zu www.eskom.co.za [147.110.251.75] über maximal 30 Abschnitte:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
2 11 ms 10 ms 19 ms ti-224-84-01.telkomadsl.co.za [105.224.84.1]
3 51 ms 29 ms 12 ms ti-226-0-06.telkomadsl.co.za [105.226.0.6]
4 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms ti-226-0-13.telkomadsl.co.za [105.226.0.13]
5 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms wblv-ip-hsll-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.39.45]
6 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 196.43.11.218
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 196.43.25.206
8 97 ms 44 ms 24 ms neotel-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.3.102]
9 13 ms 13 ms 11 ms 41.164.0.243
10 39 ms 33 ms 33 ms 41.160.0.243
11 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms 41.160.0.242
12 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
13 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms 41.160.241.98
14 47 ms 38 ms 38 ms 196.13.144.67
15 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
16 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
17 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
18 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
19 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
20 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
21 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
22 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
23 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
24 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
25 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
26 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
27 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
28 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
29 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
30 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
 
Same here,

It's strange though...this morning i was downloading at full speed..but now, no where close.

10meg line, plumstead cape town.

Traceroute looks fine


C:\Users\Chris-home>tracert www.youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube-ui.l.google.com [74.125.233.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dsldevice.wl2500 [192.168.0.1]
2 10 ms 8 ms 5 ms 105-236-9-65-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.9.65]
3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms ipc-recieve-tb-2a.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.54.86]
4 9 ms 13 ms 7 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-c.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.198.188]
5 15 ms 8 ms 8 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms ct-cr-2.za--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.134]
7 98 ms 31 ms 33 ms rb-cr-1.za--ct-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.69]
8 29 ms 31 ms 29 ms 41.181.139.109
9 30 ms 30 ms 36 ms 72.14.194.74
10 * 31 ms 35 ms 64.233.174.21
11 30 ms 37 ms 30 ms jnb01s01-in-f14.1e100.net [74.125.233.46]

Trace complete.


But speeds from youtube are crawling along.
slow.jpg
 
Same here,

It's strange though...this morning i was downloading at full speed..but now, no where close.

10meg line, plumstead cape town.

Traceroute looks fine


C:\Users\Chris-home>tracert www.youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube-ui.l.google.com [74.125.233.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dsldevice.wl2500 [192.168.0.1]
2 10 ms 8 ms 5 ms 105-236-9-65-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.9.65]
3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms ipc-recieve-tb-2a.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.54.86]
4 9 ms 13 ms 7 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-c.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.198.188]
5 15 ms 8 ms 8 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms ct-cr-2.za--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.134]
7 98 ms 31 ms 33 ms rb-cr-1.za--ct-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.69]
8 29 ms 31 ms 29 ms 41.181.139.109
9 30 ms 30 ms 36 ms 72.14.194.74
10 * 31 ms 35 ms 64.233.174.21
11 30 ms 37 ms 30 ms jnb01s01-in-f14.1e100.net [74.125.233.46]

Trace complete.


But speeds from youtube are crawling along.
View attachment 84145

Are You downloading the videos, if so, it will be shaped
 
That routing that he posted sure ain't normal.... here's mine (the fact that we both have German versions of Windows is a funny coincidence):

Routenverfolgung zu www.eskom.co.za [147.110.251.75] über maximal 30 Abschnitte:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
2 11 ms 10 ms 19 ms ti-224-84-01.telkomadsl.co.za [105.224.84.1]
3 51 ms 29 ms 12 ms ti-226-0-06.telkomadsl.co.za [105.226.0.6]
4 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms ti-226-0-13.telkomadsl.co.za [105.226.0.13]
5 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms wblv-ip-hsll-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.39.45]
6 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 196.43.11.218
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 196.43.25.206
8 97 ms 44 ms 24 ms neotel-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.3.102]
9 13 ms 13 ms 11 ms 41.164.0.243
10 39 ms 33 ms 33 ms 41.160.0.243
11 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms 41.160.0.242
12 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
13 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms 41.160.241.98
14 47 ms 38 ms 38 ms 196.13.144.67
15 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
16 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
17 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
18 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
19 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
20 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
21 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
22 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
23 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
24 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
25 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
26 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
27 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
28 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
29 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
30 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

I sent a pm to afriguy about this last night, It never used to be like this a few months ago and if you tracert from vodacom 3G it routes locally

Surely it would depend on where eskom is hosting its site and their routing?


The third last IP belongs to Neotel so I believe they use Neotel as an upstream provider

Here is my trace

3 18 ms 21 ms 39 ms 105-236-4-1-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.4.1]
4 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms ipc-recieve-rb-4a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.178.89]
5 34 ms 22 ms 21 ms rb-dca-2.za--rb-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.31.120]
6 19 ms 22 ms 21 ms jh-cr-1.za--rb-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.42]
7 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.115]
8 253 ms 232 ms 208 ms tengigabitethernet1-4.ar8.ams2.gblx.net [208.48.1.109]
9 211 ms 210 ms 226 ms teleglobe-1.ar2.ams1.gblx.net [64.208.27.6]
10 391 ms 391 ms 389 ms if-11-2.tcore2.av2-amsterdam.as6453.net [80.231.152.25]
11 414 ms 392 ms 407 ms if-19-7.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.165]
12 409 ms 403 ms 398 ms if-8-1600.tcore1.WYN-Marseille.as6453.net [80.231.217.5]
13 * 390 ms * if-2-2.tcore2.wyn-marseille.as6453.net [80.231.217.2]
14 246 ms 247 ms 246 ms if-5-0-0-28.core1.WYN-Marseille.as6453.net [80.231.165.105]
15 397 ms 400 ms 403 ms if-10-0-1-0.tcore1.JSO-Johannesburg.as6453.net [41.206.178.5]
16 220 ms 212 ms 242 ms 216.6.55.38
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 217 ms 224 ms 217 ms 41.160.241.98
19 327 ms 339 ms 331 ms 196.13.144.67
20 242 ms 236 ms 220 ms [147.110.255.22]
 
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Hi AfriGuy,

I have been stuck on 18%/6% for the last few days.. I don't think its normal, even at midnight or early hours of the morning I'm still being shaped. I think it might be stuck.
 
Are You downloading the videos, if so, it will be shaped

As far as I'm aware, if my clientzone says "Shaping Policy: No Shaping Applied" then any downloads should not be shaped.

Im curious as to why you downloading from youtube will be shaped?

:)
 
As far as I'm aware, if my clientzone says "Shaping Policy: No Shaping Applied" then any downloads should not be shaped.

Im curious as to why you downloading from youtube will be shaped?

:)

Because the packets intercepted are classified as downloads and shaped as necessary
 

Exactly my sentiments. I goes from SA to Netherlands to Germany to France then back to SA.

Edit: Did a tracert using my AH APN on my cell.

More or less similar results.

Tracing route to www.eskom.co.za [147.110.251.75]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 3 ms 1 ms 192.168.43.1
2 478 ms 73 ms 98 ms 66.8.75.17
3 92 ms 108 ms 80 ms 66.8.75.18
4 187 ms 95 ms 94 ms 66.8.75.13
5 80 ms 104 ms 144 ms tb-dca-2.za-qux-e.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.202
.0]
6 328 ms 106 ms 96 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
7 218 ms 268 ms 289 ms ls-cr-2.uk--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.113]

8 411 ms 282 ms 272 ms am-cr-1.nl--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtnns.net [196.44.31.18
3]
9 248 ms 335 ms 324 ms am-tpr-1.nl--am-cr-1.nl-a.mtn.net [209.212.111.1
41]
10 324 ms 253 ms 247 ms TenGigabitEthernet1-4.ar8.AMS2.gblx.net [208.48.
1.109]
11 695 ms 269 ms 276 ms teleglobe-1.ar2.AMS1.gblx.net [64.208.27.6]
12 401 ms 462 ms 410 ms if-11-2.tcore2.AV2-Amsterdam.as6453.net [80.231.
152.25]
13 424 ms 440 ms 406 ms if-19-7.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.
165]
14 409 ms 542 ms 514 ms if-8-1600.tcore1.WYN-Marseille.as6453.net [80.23
1.217.5]
15 518 ms 390 ms 265 ms if-4-0-0-27.core1.WYN-Marseille.as6453.net [80.2
31.165.101]
16 453 ms 405 ms 778 ms if-10-0-1-0.tcore1.JSO-Johannesburg.as6453.net [
41.206.178.5]
17 343 ms 351 ms 275 ms 216.6.55.38
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 268 ms 308 ms 302 ms 41.160.241.98
20 407 ms 352 ms 372 ms 196.13.144.67
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.
 
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Got a call from support this morning. Need to send them some test data tonight when I have this problem again. Hopefully this will help them narrow this down. I have further tested this on other ISPs now as well. Openweb - 100%, Ti - 100%, Mweb - 100%, Afri capped -100%. Only AFri uncapped giving this jittery perf. Annoying!

Hope to have this solved soon as I cannot understand how things could have been running 100% till Tuesday...then it changed. Something on the network path changed.
 
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That is strange indeed @pjjdp :D
 
Got a call from support this morning. Need to send them some test data tonight when I have this problem again. Hopefully this will help them narrow this down. I have further tested this on other ISPs now as well. Openweb - 100%, Ti - 100%, Mweb - 100%, Afri capped -100%. Only AFri uncapped giving this jittery perf. Annoying!

Hope to have this solved soon as I cannot understand how things could have been running 100% till Tuesday...then it changed. Something on the network path changed.

Im having this problem right now
 
Are You downloading the videos, if so, it will be shaped

If you're downloading a video and not streaming it - the packet signature will most likely change and it could be shaped. Only if you are being shaped at the time - otherwise not :)
 
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