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wingnut771 · Nov 25, 2018

sand_man said:
New cable where? I changed the cat6 connecting the ont to my router. No difference. It's not the cable connecting my router to my desktop as wireless tests are producing the same results.

Could be actual fibre cables but I don't know. What's unusual is other than via an iperf test the packet loss isn't manifesting itself through real world performance.

Yea, the actual fiber.

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

S.Claus said:
Have you considered the router to be the problem (probably a dumb question) ?

Not dumb at all. I'm about to run a test from ONT to desktop direct.

wingnut771 said:
Yea, the actual fiber.

Could be...

wingnut771 · Nov 25, 2018

PBCool, we need some schooling.

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

S.Claus said:
Have you considered the router to be the problem (probably a dumb question) ?

That's connected direct to the ONT...

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.134]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>iperf3.exe -R -u -b 160M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
Reverse mode, remote host queen.cisp.co.za is sending
[ 4] local 155.93.184.204 port 62782 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.58 MBytes 13.2 Mbits/sec 0.637 ms 2273/2475 (92%)
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 400 KBytes 3.28 Mbits/sec 0.304 ms 2294/2344 (98%)
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 344 KBytes 2.82 Mbits/sec 0.111 ms 2496/2539 (98%)
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 408 KBytes 3.34 Mbits/sec 0.078 ms 2415/2466 (98%)
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 240 KBytes 1.96 Mbits/sec 0.145 ms 2387/2417 (99%)
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 376 KBytes 3.08 Mbits/sec 0.143 ms 2443/2490 (98%)
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 344 KBytes 2.82 Mbits/sec 0.089 ms 2398/2441 (98%)
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 400 KBytes 3.27 Mbits/sec 0.050 ms 2343/2393 (98%)
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 240 KBytes 1.97 Mbits/sec 0.073 ms 2460/2490 (99%)
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 360 KBytes 2.95 Mbits/sec 0.244 ms 2396/2441 (98%)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 195 MBytes 163 Mbits/sec 0.299 ms 24266/24863 (98%)
[ 4] Sent 24863 datagrams

iperf Done.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Fjorko · Nov 25, 2018

Seems like you got a "Lucky Packet" ONT. You are lucky if the packets ever make it to the other side. ;-)

I know - sorry - this is a serious matter !

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

It's very weird. But performance is good. That's the thing.

Xbox one connected wirelessly 5 meters away.

Fjorko said:
Seems like you got a "Lucky Packet" ONT. You are lucky if the packets ever make it to the other side. ;-)

I know - sorry - this is a serious matter !

Tinuva · Nov 25, 2018

sand_man said:
That's connected direct to the ONT...

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.134]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>iperf3.exe -R -u -b 160M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
Reverse mode, remote host queen.cisp.co.za is sending
[ 4] local 155.93.184.204 port 62782 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.58 MBytes 13.2 Mbits/sec 0.637 ms 2273/2475 (92%)
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 400 KBytes 3.28 Mbits/sec 0.304 ms 2294/2344 (98%)
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 344 KBytes 2.82 Mbits/sec 0.111 ms 2496/2539 (98%)
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 408 KBytes 3.34 Mbits/sec 0.078 ms 2415/2466 (98%)
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 240 KBytes 1.96 Mbits/sec 0.145 ms 2387/2417 (99%)
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 376 KBytes 3.08 Mbits/sec 0.143 ms 2443/2490 (98%)
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 344 KBytes 2.82 Mbits/sec 0.089 ms 2398/2441 (98%)
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 400 KBytes 3.27 Mbits/sec 0.050 ms 2343/2393 (98%)
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 240 KBytes 1.97 Mbits/sec 0.073 ms 2460/2490 (99%)
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 360 KBytes 2.95 Mbits/sec 0.244 ms 2396/2441 (98%)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 195 MBytes 163 Mbits/sec 0.299 ms 24266/24863 (98%)
[ 4] Sent 24863 datagrams

iperf Done.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

This is mine on a 100mbit line, using 100m as the parameter!

Code:

~$ iperf3 -R -u -b 100M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
Reverse mode, remote host queen.cisp.co.za is sending
[  4] local 192.168.241.208 port 48255 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1141 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1142 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1143 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1144 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1145 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1146 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1147 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1148 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  12.1 MBytes   101 Mbits/sec  0.134 ms  52/1587 (3.3%)  
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  11.9 MBytes   100 Mbits/sec  0.052 ms  0/1526 (0%)  
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  11.9 MBytes   100 Mbits/sec  0.228 ms  0/1526 (0%)  
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  11.9 MBytes  99.5 Mbits/sec  0.154 ms  7/1526 (0.46%)  
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  11.9 MBytes  99.9 Mbits/sec  0.124 ms  1/1526 (0.066%)  
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  11.9 MBytes  99.9 Mbits/sec  0.081 ms  0/1525 (0%)  
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  11.9 MBytes   100 Mbits/sec  0.110 ms  0/1526 (0%)  
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  11.9 MBytes   100 Mbits/sec  0.148 ms  0/1527 (0%)  
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  11.9 MBytes  99.9 Mbits/sec  0.147 ms  1/1525 (0.066%)  
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  11.9 MBytes   100 Mbits/sec  0.174 ms  0/1526 (0%)  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   121 MBytes   102 Mbits/sec  0.122 ms  61/15540 (0.39%)  
[  4] Sent 15540 datagrams
[SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  8 datagrams received out-of-order

iperf Done.

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

Yeah. That's a solid result. I really can't understand what's going on my end. The tests are rubbish on the new ont but performance is there, so what gives???

Damaged fibre cable? Something incorrectly configured back office either on vumas end or cool ideas end??

I give up...

Tinuva said:

This is mine on a 100mbit line, using 100m as the parameter!

Code:

~$ iperf3 -R -u -b 100M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
Reverse mode, remote host queen.cisp.co.za is sending
[ 4] local 192.168.241.208 port 48255 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1141 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1142 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1143 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1144 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1145 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1146 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1147 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
iperf3: OUT OF ORDER - incoming packet = 1148 and received packet = 1150 AND SP = 4
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 12.1 MBytes 101 Mbits/sec 0.134 ms 52/1587 (3.3%) 
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 100 Mbits/sec 0.052 ms 0/1526 (0%) 
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 100 Mbits/sec 0.228 ms 0/1526 (0%) 
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 99.5 Mbits/sec 0.154 ms 7/1526 (0.46%) 
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 99.9 Mbits/sec 0.124 ms 1/1526 (0.066%) 
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 99.9 Mbits/sec 0.081 ms 0/1525 (0%) 
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 100 Mbits/sec 0.110 ms 0/1526 (0%) 
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 100 Mbits/sec 0.148 ms 0/1527 (0%) 
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 99.9 Mbits/sec 0.147 ms 1/1525 (0.066%) 
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 11.9 MBytes 100 Mbits/sec 0.174 ms 0/1526 (0%) 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 121 MBytes 102 Mbits/sec 0.122 ms 61/15540 (0.39%) 
[ 4] Sent 15540 datagrams
[SUM] 0.0-10.0 sec 8 datagrams received out-of-order

iperf Done.

wingnut771 · Nov 25, 2018

sand_man said:
Yeah. That's a solid result. I really can't understand what's going on my end. The tests are rubbish on the new ont but performance is there, so what gives???

Damaged fibre cable? Something incorrectly configured back office either on vumas end or cool ideas end??

I give up...

Hence my schooling request.

Fjorko · Nov 25, 2018

When I ran that test the first result showed 18% loss then when i ran it again - 100% loss each time....

????????????????????????????????

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

Fjorko said:
When I ran that test the first result showed 18% loss then when i ran it again - 100% loss each time....

????????????????????????????????

Huh? Pics or it didn't happen...

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

wingnut771 said:
Hence my schooling request.

Yeah, I would love Paul's incite on this but geesus, the guy gets hammered on here day after day after day. He should at least get the weekends off...

Fjorko · Nov 25, 2018

sand_man said:
Huh? Pics or it didn't happen...

2nd try right after

sand_man · Nov 25, 2018

That's messed up. 3rd time's the treat..

wingnut771 · Nov 25, 2018

sand_man said:
Yeah, I would love Paul's incite on this but geesus, the guy gets hammered on here day after day after day. He should at least get the weekends off...

No rush, got no fiber

wingnut771 · Nov 25, 2018

Fjorko said:
View attachment 583072

2nd try right after

View attachment 583074

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Fjorko · Nov 25, 2018

Nah man - i dont think this test is lekker hey.....coz if you do the same test to some fake ip, and try queen.cisp.co.za again - it runs again - as if it caches the negative results....

Plus - arn't we supposed to use 60 or 80% of out line speed as a value ? I.E 60M or 80M?

wingnut771 · Nov 25, 2018

Fjorko said:
Nah man - i dont think this test is lekker hey.....coz if you do the same test to some fake ip, and try queen.cisp.co.za again - it runs again - as if it caches the negative results....

Plus - arn't we supposed to use 60 or 80% of out line speed as a value ? I.E 60M or 80M?

I would assume 80% is correct to allow for headroom.

Fjorko · Nov 25, 2018

With 80M i get this. Still think this is not that awesome.. i want less than 1%

Sinbad · Nov 25, 2018

Try dropping your mtu a bit

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