Corsa OPC

EvoBunny said:
If the Corsa OPC (which is a joke btw) were to come out with the 2L engine, turbocharged, then what's the use of the Astra? :rolleyes:

I agree with JK8 here, the Corsa OPC is not that impressive, you can say what you like but a couple of stock Focus ST's have already beat them
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Well ... considering that the Focus ST is not who they are intending on beating - what's the issue exactly? ;)

I'd be proud if I was a Corsa OPC driver and you ST folk were comparing, defending and worrying about the Corsa OPC! The Opel Astra GTC 2.0 Turbo is more in your league (incidently, it's also quicker in both 0-100km/h and top end - CAR Dec 06). The Focus ST costs more, has a 2.5 turbo engine and 166kw. That's a 50% larger engine with 20% more power than the Corsa OPC. If you call the Corsa OPC 'a joke' that it doesn't stand up to a Focus ST, am I allowed to call the Focus ST a joke because it can't beat the 195kw 130i ... ? That's also about 20% more power and has a larger engine too ... so it should be no issue on your side ...

What I find more sad than the above, is that the Focus ST has to compare to cars with 20% less power than themselves :/ This mighty Focus ST is only milliseconds ahead of both the lower powered Corsa OPC and lower powered GTI. CAR magazine got 7.85 sec for the OPC (April 08), 7.5 sec for the ST (Dec 06) and 7.67 sec for the GTI (May 05).

I think the joke is that Focus ST drivers have to be wary of the little Corsa ...
 
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Its a crap car!! What a waste, Seat 177kw FTW, now thats value for money!!
177kw at the MF wheels!:D
 
I have a 96 model Opel Kadett 160is. I have a massive respect for an Opel. I love it. The car is stock and pull 1.6 Polo's that have filters on. Don't get me started on the new Polo's, from first gear I'm gone. I even sit with the old 1800 Golf CTi. I know this has nothing to do with the Corsa OPC, but i have to give my two cents worth to defend Opel. They have some of the quickest cars out there.
 
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CaTcH21 said:
whats your company name ? if you bigger than Oettinger, AMG & Brabus, who told me what i told you, then your word is greater. So please, company name ?
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You don't need a company to have actually raced yourself :rolleyes: and how about having built engines for well known drivers of the past...
 
Dolby said:
Well ... considering that the Focus ST is not who they are intending on beating - what's the issue exactly? ;)

I'd be proud if I was a Corsa OPC driver and you ST folk were comparing, defending and worrying about the Corsa OPC! The Opel Astra GTC 2.0 Turbo is more in your league (incidently, it's also quicker in both 0-100km/h and top end - CAR Dec 06). The Focus ST costs more, has a 2.5 turbo engine and 166kw. That's a 50% larger engine with 20% more power than the Corsa OPC. If you call the Corsa OPC 'a joke' that it doesn't stand up to a Focus ST, am I allowed to call the Focus ST a joke because it can't beat the 195kw 130i ... ? That's also about 20% more power and has a larger engine too ... so it should be no issue on your side ...

What I find more sad than the above, is that the Focus ST has to compare to cars with 20% less power than themselves :/ This mighty Focus ST is only milliseconds ahead of both the lower powered Corsa OPC and lower powered GTI. CAR magazine got 7.85 sec for the OPC (April 08), 7.5 sec for the ST (Dec 06) and 7.67 sec for the GTI (May 05).

I think the joke is that Focus ST drivers have to be wary of the little Corsa ...
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Dude, here is the problem, I have beaten a 130i :P and the guy's face was priceless...

I'm really not concerned about the little Corsa... I payed for R228 for my brand new Focus ST which is less than the people are paying for the Corsa, I have more space, more performance, better top end and it's a more appealing car... think about it. The Focus might be 50% larger, but it's only 9.5% heavier... oh yes, and how much does a 130i cost? Base price of R310k?

As for why I mentioned comparing the Focus the little teeny weeny Corsa, is because people was mentioning the GTI as well, and I know of stock GTI that's about just as fast as stock ST's so if a Focus ST beat it by car lengths the GTI should be able to beat it as well by a couple...

But nope, you can just comment away without regards to what I was actually saying...
 
EvoBunny said:
Dude, here is the problem, I have beaten a 130i :P and the guy's face was priceless...

I'm really not concerned about the little Corsa... I payed for R228 for my brand new Focus ST which is less than the people are paying for the Corsa, I have more space, more performance, better top end and it's a more appealing car... think about it. The Focus might be 50% larger, but it's only 9.5% heavier... oh yes, and how much does a 130i cost? Base price of R310k?

As for why I mentioned comparing the Focus the little teeny weeny Corsa, is because people was mentioning the GTI as well, and I know of stock GTI that's about just as fast as stock ST's so if a Focus ST beat it by car lengths the GTI should be able to beat it as well by a couple...

But nope, you can just comment away without regards to what I was actually saying...
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Atleast you admit it!!:) Dolby and his stats lol...
 
JK8 said:
Atleast you admit it!!:) Dolby and his stats lol...
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Yea but my stats exclude ST drivers ... they beat everything on the road :/ Nothing really competes with em :o

They also drive faster than any motoring journalist from CAR, Topcar, Wheels etc and defy any stats published *bow*
 
CaTcH21 said:
thats what i thought, another keyboard commando ...
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Hahaha, whatever LOL... what you think and what happens in the real world, yes the one beyond beyond your monitor is two different things... I'm far from a keyboard commando...
 
Dolby said:
Yea but my stats exclude ST drivers ... they beat everything on the road :/ Nothing really competes with em :o

They also drive faster than any motoring journalist from CAR, Topcar, Wheels etc and defy any stats published *bow*
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I would say any motoring journalists, but some of them, cause although they sometimes drive some of the cars, it doesn't make them good driver ;) Think about it, you may perhaps make coffee everyday, but does this make you coffee taste good everytime? Not really...
 
Well I must say that even though Im a GTI Driver/support/fanatic, You cannot discard the fact that the Corsa OPC has remarkable stats. It might be in the league of the fiesta but I have no doubt it will strap a GTI and ST in the right hands. In saying that, its an Opel and what goes fast today and works, will probably breakdown and rattle tomorrow. Gone are the days of the SUPERBOSS - Now that is a legend.

Evobunny... what car do you drive exactly?
 
Well Car magazine last month confirmed the Gti5 upgrades with new stats...
Dont think OPC Corsas or even the STs are as quick!:)
 
ST's where not much quicker than GTI's ... nor 130i's actually ;)

See, the GTI and ST have always been pretty much on par speed-wise. Both CAR magazine (coast) and Topcar (reef) got them within split seconds of each other. If I remember correctly, Topcar had the GTI split seconds quicker than the ST (despite the 20% lower power ...). Anyway - we won't argue that point now. Let's accept ST = GTI.

However I would like to argue the ST taking the 130i. At coast this obviously a bit of a joke as logical tells you the 130i is quicker - but at reef I again had to check my stats. Sure enough I found this site with the 130i and GTI at reef ! http://www.cartorque.co.za/0354.htm

Interesting to note that BMW is consistantly half a second quicker over 400m ... hmmm

What did you ever say about Opel's real competition, the Astra OPC? ;)
 
When do they have these shoot outs? I would like to go and see for myself... I remember they use to have it at Wesbank Drags.. but thats closed down - They need to have an official day once and for all!! hehe
 
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