Earlier in the thread, cars were compared via price ... now it's power? You're like an ST boy!
Select one and be consistant
- 0-100km/h
- 0-200km/h
- 1/4 mile
- price
- power
The Opels are more expensive and have more power...
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The Opels are more expensive and have more power...
Do these new Opiels have the same heritage since GM bought them?
Nope, they look like American cars.
JK8 you do know GM has "owned" Opel since 1929?
IMHO it's the only devision of GM worth anything, Opel still develops the engines in Germany, only difference is GM relabels the Opel engines and uses them in pretty much all the GM cars that feature Inline 4 engines.
If you mean GM SA, well let's see, the 200tS was the last great car Delta made and I think the Astra OPC is even more crazy than the 200tS so they definitely haven't lost that
IMHO it's the only devision of GM worth anything, Opel still develops the engines in Germany, only difference is GM relabels the Opel engines and uses them in pretty much all the GM cars that feature Inline 4 engines.
If you mean GM SA, well let's see, the 200tS was the last great car Delta made and I think the Astra OPC is even more crazy than the 200tS so they definitely haven't lost that
Adeptus Mechanicus
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+1 on the TS and I'll raise you a Coupe TurboJK8 you do know GM has "owned" Opel since 1929?
IMHO it's the only devision of GM worth anything, Opel still develops the engines in Germany, only difference is GM relabels the Opel engines and uses them in pretty much all the GM cars that feature Inline 4 engines.
If you mean GM SA, well let's see, the 200tS was the last great car Delta made and I think the Astra OPC is even more crazy than the 200tS so they definitely haven't lost that
Rouxenator
Dank meme lord
No he does not know that and he still thinks the Polo Playa was a real VW and not just a rebadged SEAT Ibiza Mk2.
and he still thinks the Polo Playa was a real VW and not just a rebadged SEAT Ibiza Mk2.+1 on the TS and I'll raise you a Coupe Turbo
The 200ts was not that great, i owned one, and whilst it was great when it ran...it was ...troublesome...It over heated continuously, it had horrid torque steer, my gearbox was constantly giving issues, parts were horribly expensive, the management system was a joke...
The super boss was a much better car IMO
Yeah I know the early models had problems with overheating but apparently that was rectified, either way many people added bigger after market radiators, as for the torque steer
what did you expect, 160kW on that car was overkill, that's why so many ended up being part of the SA landscape. Management on that car was Bosch Motronic, why do you say it's a joke, what happened?And yes the F28 gearbox was a bit temperamental but many people have cured it by using better gearbox oil than what GM used.
Either way I'll agree the car had it's problems but considering the price I don't think you can complain, they retailed for R100K or round there if I remember correctly, nothing made 160kW back then for that price.
+1 on the Super Boss, was a awesome car.
+1 on the TS and I'll raise you a Coupe Turbo
Yep awesome car (How on earth I forgot it
), I like it more than the new Astra OPC, I like the Astra G coupe body better and the engine like all Opel engines can be made very powerful
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Adeptus Mechanicus
Expert Member
Nearly bought an '05 Coupe in silver making just over 200kw (at the wheels) before I bought the Corsa OPCYeah I know the early models had problems with overheating but apparently that was rectified, either way many people added bigger after market radiators, as for the torque steer
And yes the F28 gearbox was a bit temperamental but many people have cured it by using better gearbox oil than what GM used.
Either way I'll agree the car had it's problems but considering the price I don't think you can complain, they retailed for R100K or round there if I remember correctly, nothing made 160kW back then for that price.
+1 on the Super Boss, was a awesome car.
Yep awesome car (How on earth I forgot it
As for TS reliability, I know a few people with them and the only guys who had any major issues were the guys who modded them (hence me not wanting to buy that crazy Coupe Turbo
)