iPhone 5 fails to be groundbreaking

cerebus said:
Flexibility is a matter of perception. It might be more flexible for one user to have a massive and mature apps market which provides a huge amount of functionality. Or it might be flexible for another to get under the hood and have direct command line access to the device.
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I think both operating systems have a massive and mature market and of course they can both only mature over time they can only get better.

There are advantages of both app stores, for example, Apple's might be more finely tuned but Android has way way more free apps.

And imho, it will not be too long before Android apps doubles Apple's in total apps.

And only 1 app store is owned by douche bags who try patent the words "app store".
 
Dolby said:
cerebus - what are your take on widgets?

Heading into 2013 and still nothing. Having had an iOS and Android, I must say that they're absolutely fantastic and a glaring omission from iOS. Even the Cult Of Mac isn't too happy http://www.cultofmac.com/173310/7-awesome-features-apple-left-out-of-ios-6/
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Yep widgets would be nice on iOS. On my phone I use the Gmail widget and the weather widget and those are both cool. Definitely wouldn't complain if they brought them to iOS. Or any kind of homescreen customisation for that matter. Then again, I went to show off my new tablet to a friend today, and was taking him through some of the apps... and I don't really notice anymore because I'm pretty used to Android. But his reaction was... 'but this is so jerky compared to your iPad. No, no..that would frustrate me too much.' And it is still kind of the case.

A LOT of the iPhone's appeal is because it is a really beautiful, slick, solid OS and user interface. You think that stuff is just candy but I tell you it isn't. It sells phones. And it constitutes a great deal of your experience and sense of the quality of the platforms. iPhone 5 to me - ok granted it doesn't break new ground. But it is just insanely sexy and slick and polished, to a degree that any Android phone could just dream of. The day I see that level of fanatical polish in Android and Android phones is the day I'll change my opinion. And if that means omitting this or that feature then so be it. Better that than half-baked concepts that you end up never using because they aren't implemented properly.

There are advantages of both app stores, for example, Apple's might be more finely tuned but Android has way way more free apps.
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Yea I know... that isn't necessarily a very high incentive for developers to make their top tier work for Android though. I use both app stores a lot, like pretty much daily download new Android and iOS apps, and there is a perceptible quality difference to me. That still makes the single biggest advantage of iOS.

And only 1 app store is owned by douche bags who try patent the words "app store".
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Classy comments, love it.
 
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cerebus said:
'but this is so jerky compared to your iPad. No, no..that would frustrate me too much.' And it is still kind of the case.
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When I did check the Android tablets, they were jerkier than my iPad ... but not the phones (at least my S3).

Perhaps the next round of tablets would be as slick as the Android phones?
 
Dolby said:
When I did check the Android tablets, they were jerkier than my iPad ... but not the phones (at least my S3).

Perhaps the next round of tablets would be as slick as the Android phones?
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Got JB on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it is super smooth. Odd jerk here and there but so does my iPad3 jerk here and there.

The Nexus 7 however. FML. This thing makes the iPad feel jerky.

Bottom line is JB on the modern Android tabs is right up there with the iPad.
 
Dolby said:
When I did check the Android tablets, they were jerkier than my iPad ... but not the phones (at least my S3).

Perhaps the next round of tablets would be as slick as the Android phones?
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Smoothness is certainly one attribute of the experience, and Android is improving there. I can't imagine why a tablet would be less smooth than a phone but perhaps it's Touchwiz? I can't say. The rest of it though is the polish of it, the boldness and beauty of the UI. I gave the example already of the folder animation on both systems. Android is timid compared to iOS's flourishes. It's still an engineer and technician's system rather than a user's.

And then there's the phones. Ok iPhone specs are fairly comparable to SGS3's, but to me the iPhone build is leagues ahead. Why did they wait on LTE? It was a question of sacrificing battery life or waiting till the technology was mature enough. I see it as a bit of a joke when a phone's removable battery is an advertised feature - why couldn't they have given it enough battery life that you wouldn't need to replace it in a day?
 
Mike Smit said:
Got JB on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it is super smooth. Odd jerk here and there but so does my iPad3 jerk here and there.

The Nexus 7 however. FML. This thing makes the iPad feel jerky.

Bottom line is JB on the modern Android tabs is right up there with the iPad.
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Still waiting on an official JB rom for the Tablet S. If/when that ever happens I can comment.


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I'll say that I've used JB on the KF quite a bit and it's definitely smoother.
 
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Perhaps it was decided not to bring the LTE model to South Africa as its - um - useless?

Not every manufacturer 'leaves' out features for battery life - otherwise just go buy a basic Nokia that also has no features but lasts 5 days
 
Dolby said:
Perhaps it was decided not to bring the LTE model to South Africa as its - um - useless?

Not every manufacturer 'leaves' out features for battery life - otherwise just go buy a basic Nokia that also has no features but lasts 5 days
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I get that but battery life should still be a preeminent concern in making a device. It contributes hugely to the feel of quality of a phone. So it's worth remembering that battery life is actually a 'feature' for a lot of people, including myself.
 
cerebus said:
I get that but battery life should still be a preeminent concern in making a device. It contributes hugely to the feel of quality of a phone. So it's worth remembering that battery life is actually a 'feature' for a lot of people, including myself.
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+1
 
Dolby said:
.. yet they all praise the LTE on the new iPad and iPhone which currently IS Useless and may be for the life of the device?
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How do you figure that? Perhaps in SA which is still technologically behind the times. The UK will have 1800MHz LTE in 16 major cities before Christmas, LTE that IS compatible with the iPhone.

McCrazieGoalz said:
I mean, LTE was the biggest announcement. Which marquee smartphone doesn't have 4G these days?

Very meh.
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How about the Galaxy S3? No LTE support built in to the international i9300 version. Only the US and South Korean versions (and a few other Pacific nations). There is a new SGS3 LTE announced very hurriedly, supposed to launch "before Christmas" in Europe.

Rocket-Boy said:
, so happy that I got an S3 and didnt wait for this.
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Me too, the free upgrade SGS3 I got and then immediately sold means it's almost paid for my iPhone 5 :D


Mike Smit said:
Not sure if posted already.
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Cheeky advert, considering it claims the SGS3 has LTE, which it doesn't in the SGS3 it sells in about 70% of the world.
 
I'm pretty sure that Samsung will release a phone here in SA with LTE as soon as we get LTE

Remember, this is Samsung not Apple, and Samsung doesn't only release a new phone every 2 years.

I really don't mind if any of my phones don't have LTE just as long as SA doesn't have it.

Imagine downloading @ 100 Mb per second @ 2 Rand per MB or some other ridiculous OOB rate.
 
Was looking at that new iPod. Then I saw the price was the same as the new iPhone... Surely that can't be right? >.<
 
*sigh*...

Apologies for all the Apple news, but at least Apple only releases a phone once per year.

Apple’s new iPhone lacks useful features like NFC and Wireless Charging, which comes standard on the Nokia Lumia 920.

Now Apple’s Senior VP Phil Schiller has explained why iPhone users were actually better off not burdened with the new technology.

He told All Things D "Passbook does the kinds of things customers need today," but did not add Apple will be ready to sell them a new iPhone with the feature after everyone else have done the ground breaking work.

On Wireless Charging he showed that he did not think too much of the iSheep, saying:

"Having to create another device you have to plug into the wall is actually, for most situations, more complicated."

It seems Phil does not quite understand that anything that will charge his precious phone will have to be plugged in in any case.

To add insult to injury, he did not think the adaptor he will be selling for $29 and $39 which would allow new iPhone 5 owners to use their old accessories complicated at all.

I guess the reality distortion field did not die with Steve Jobs after all…
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Source
 
That is how I understand it too.
Still a bit of an unknown. Think I will go Google a bit and see what comes up.

Would hate for it to be charging while talking. Could fry my ear drum, brain, or something else I need :)
 
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