MWEB Uncapped Subscribers Feedback

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@Will or MwebGuy's.

Why is it that when the line servers are congested that to 4M customers get shaped to the same speed as .384M customers? At least that the was it seems based on feedback here.

Also I downloaded a few news server items using AltBinz. Although they claimed 100% download mostly they do not work and using a program called Autounpack to check the archive and it finds hundreds of news articles are missing so the archives cannot be repaired or unrar. Any advise? Could that be due to packet loss?
 
@Will or MwebGuy's.

Why is it that when the line servers are congested that to 4M customers get shaped to the same speed as .384M customers? At least that the was it seems based on feedback here.

Also I downloaded a few news server items using AltBinz. Although they claimed 100% download mostly they do not work and using a program called Autounpack to check the archive and it finds hundreds of news articles are missing so the archives cannot be repaired or unrar. Any advise? Could that be due to packet loss?


noticed missing files also on big stuff, but thats on any isp that i have tested it with.

i found trick for this need to have external drive .

you start unraring file to external.

pause the unrar,open the file give some error or play but file will be in use, just make sure its in use.

finish it , will pop some error blah blah, but file will be there as its still in use windows cant delete file when in use.

then just pull the external out, then will be there for use and most probably working fine, don't close program using the file or file will delete it self as winrar reported as not completed.
 
@Will or MwebGuy's.

Why is it that when the line servers are congested that to 4M customers get shaped to the same speed as .384M customers? At least that the was it seems based on feedback here.

Also I downloaded a few news server items using AltBinz. Although they claimed 100% download mostly they do not work and using a program called Autounpack to check the archive and it finds hundreds of news articles are missing so the archives cannot be repaired or unrar. Any advise? Could that be due to packet loss?

No it will mostly likely be due to a sketchy, or incomplete upload :) I really don't want to get into a discussion about the nature of binary news content, but there is a very good reason why the concept of .par files was developed for repairing incomplete archives.
 
No it will mostly likely be due to a sketchy, or incomplete upload :) I really don't want to get into a discussion about the nature of binary news content, but there is a very good reason why the concept of .par files was developed for repairing incomplete archives.

Thanks for the reply's guys.

@ Will, What about my first question?

Why is it that when the line servers are congested that the 4M customers get shaped to the same speed as .384M customers?

We do pay much more you know!
 
Hi Nanfeishen.

We don't specifically publish a list of what gets shaped and there are updates from time to time as new services are discovered and added, but as a general rule all P2P like activities fall into the realm of shaped content, which includes traditional swarming protocols such as bittorrent, nntp news, torrent vpn and seedbox services and the ever growing list of sites which are referred to loosely as '1 click hosts' which are used 99% of time to share the same content as can be found on other p2p platforms.

This has been discussed here numerous times in this thread however it never hurts to mention it again. I just had a look at the FAQ post on our help site regarding what gets shaped and I think it could use a bit more clarity for future reference - I'll make sure that gets addressed.

I trust this clears things up for you.

Kind Regards
Will

fine ... but what about sites like speedtest.net?? whats your explanation for that??
I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that you shape torrents,etc. but I understood that http traffic would not be shaped, especially to a site like speedtest.net!!!
 
fine ... but what about sites like speedtest.net?? whats your explanation for that??
I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that you shape torrents,etc. but I understood that http traffic would not be shaped, especially to a site like speedtest.net!!!

Well I think it's equally important to remember that speedtest servers have a home on someone's network too and we don't have any control over how busy those servers are, or the networks they're on.

These two tests were taken back to back, they're both to Cape Town based servers, interesting to note that my latency to one of them is much lower, but they other one gives me much higher throughput. My account is a standard 4mb shaped product and I have nothing up my sleeves :)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294624453.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294626282.png
 
Well I think it's equally important to remember that speedtest servers have a home on someone's network too and we don't have any control over how busy those servers are, or the networks they're on.

These two tests were taken back to back, they're both to Cape Town based servers, interesting to note that my latency to one of them is much lower, but they other one gives me much higher throughput. My account is a standard 4mb shaped product and I have nothing up my sleeves :)


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294624453.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294626282.png

On what backbone or pipe? :)

1294645093.png
1294646636.png


I only get a D+ compare to your B+ and my browsing is a tad slow.
 
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Still getting problems... webpage timeouts. Erratic speeds... even YouTube buffers forever now

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Still getting problems... webpage timeouts. Erratic speeds... even YouTube buffers forever now

Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

I'd start by getting your line checked out with those symptoms. MWEB Guy will gladly assist :)
 
What the speed test servers, or me? On the first question you can see which is which - there are only two servers available for Cape Town, on the other point I'm on the Cape Town IPC node as this is where I'm based.

EDIT:

My results, up to JHB and to London

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294656060.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294693586.png


based in cape town, so you run over sat3. hence your good speeds/latency throughout the past couple of weeks.
 
What the speed test servers, or me? On the first question you can see which is which - there are only two servers available for Cape Town, on the other point I'm on the Cape Town IPC node as this is where I'm based.

EDIT:

My results, up to JHB and to London

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294656060.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294693586.png

Now that is the crux then, our oaks here in JHB are stumbling or struggling for reliable ba[-]n[/-]dwitdh. (see what I did there). Send your engineers up here please!
 
Well I think it's equally important to remember that speedtest servers have a home on someone's network too and we don't have any control over how busy those servers are, or the networks they're on.

These two tests were taken back to back, they're both to Cape Town based servers, interesting to note that my latency to one of them is much lower, but they other one gives me much higher throughput. My account is a standard 4mb shaped product and I have nothing up my sleeves :)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294624453.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294626282.png

My account is constantly disconnecting and webpages do not even load sometimes ... I have tried those speedtest results for a few minutes ... so the fact that their network might be congested does not sound right ... it is a lot more likely that something is up with my mweb account.
Strange how so many of your users have problems, but as long as ur line works then I guess their is not problem!!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294766459.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294769242.png

and this is on a 4meg line ... so don't tell me its all working when this is what I have been getting the whole day and already had 2 faults logged with telkom and they found nothing.

I get this on the afrihost free account :

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1294777620.png
 
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This may be a fairly lengthy post, here goes.

A couple of general things. Firstly, not everyone is going to post when they are having a problem. I for example will browse this thread and if I see a number of posts highlighting the same issue that I am experiencing, I assume it's a general issue and that MWeb are attending to it so I won't bother posting (partly to prevent cluttering up an already cluttered thread).
Secondly, many posts do not provide much information of use. They will simply be along the lines of "my connection's slow" or "my speed sucks" and so on. I guess this is possibly why many PMs are requested by Will. Many people don't even have their location listed which could be of some help. I also think a decent proportion of problems are not MWeb related or under their control.
Thirdly, from the postings over the last week and a half (and this is my personal observation) there does appear to be a widespread issue with MWeb. Though it appears to be prevalent in Gauteng, and is mainly limited to certain types of shaped traffic (Usenet/news servers in particular).

Now for my problem in particular. This will be my 8th month with MWeb (uncapped, shaped on 4096kbps line). I'm not a particularly difficult customer and am fairly easy to please, so while there has been an issue here and there, I have been quite happy overall and have not considered moving in that time. 138GB is the largest amount of data I have downloaded in one month in that period. Most of that coming off Usenet/news servers (Giganews to be specific). During office hours I would get 10KB/s and while this is extremely slow on a 4096kbps line I understood, due to it being a shaped account and was satisfied with that. Speed would increase to 60KB/s early evening once shaping started to relax, then late night 120KB/s and finally 250+KB/s early hours of the morning when shaping was at it's lowest. So while at times the speeds may have been slow it was consistent. Then around 10 days ago something changed, and since then downloading from Giganews at any time other than the early hours of the morning has been an exercise in futility, with speeds being non-existent, peaking now and again at 2KB/s. Let me say, that browsing and downloading e-mail has been fine, as has downloading from Steam (running at 250+KB/s). Speedtests also show the account to be fine. I also have a number of other accounts with different ISPs (both freebies and capped), and when using these, Giganews runs at full speed so I am confident in saying that it is not a line or exchange problem. The fact that Giganews also runs at full speed on MWeb itself during the early hours of the morning when shaping is at it's most relaxed suggests that the shaping has a major role in whatever changed 10 days ago.
What I simply want to know from MWeb/Will is, are MWeb aware of this? Are they investigating? And is there any reasonable expectation of the speeds on the news server returning to what they were previously (slow at times but consistent), or are MWeb satisfied with the way things are running at the moment in regards to the shaping and they don't forsee much change?

I'll try this again, is there any response on this from MWeb? I think my questions are valid, and don't feel my post was particularly belligerent or aggressive so cannot understand the lack of any response.
If you experience a certain level of service for eight months and there is suddenly a significant change in the consistency of that service, I don't feel it is unreasonable to expect some sort of feedback on what occurred or what is to be expected going forward.
You're not unreasonable are you MWeb?
 
based in cape town, so you run over sat3. hence your good speeds/latency throughout the past couple of weeks.

Well that's only relevant for the London test and our Sat-3 and Seacom routes both terminate at the same London PoP.
 
Wow, unbelievable, thats just totally unbelievable for me. Wow, actually dunno what to type lol.

On topic: Speeds seem to have improved slightly, might just be cause its weekend thou.
 
384k line Mweb News Server 1am Friday night 25KB/s, about 2 weeks ago peak time 35KB/s, not complaining just observing.
 
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