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SauRoNZA said:
Always more front brake than rear brake.

ALWAYS.

Even no rear brake at all is better than doing it the wrong way round.

Doesn't the NC have linked brakes? Then it might be the sensation of it self-pressuring the pedal.

ABS should "kick" back and then go pap. Feels like the swingarm snaps the first time you feel it and is very sensitive on the rear brakes of most ABS bikes.

But Honda loves their dual brakes so it's probably that. In which case you don't even ever need to use the pedal (bad habit but Ja).
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The link is between back and front, not the other way round. The pedal actuates the middle pot of the front caliper, the lever actuates the other two.
 
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faniedry said:
The NC is also not terribly high
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The NC isn't crazy tall by tall bike standards but for new riders it's usually a case of the lower the better.

So other bikes are significantly lower and generally easy to flat foot for most.
 
Sinbad said:
For some reason I think the link was only on the 700 not the 750.
And the link is between back and front, not the other way round. The pedal actuates the middle pot of the front caliper, the lever actuates the other two.
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It should be front combined with rear only and not in reverse of only the pedal is used. Unless Honda does it very differently from everyone else. Usually the rear is kept independent for "reasons".

But the thing about the pots is interesting but surely then still it would be "pre loaded" if you did use the front at all? So you should feel the same hydraulic pressure at the pedal if you engaged front first and then the rear?

Your sure it's not a case of the front brake only activating a single pot at the rear and the pedal then activating the other as well?

You always want more pressure at the front so that the weight displaces forward and keeps the front tyre from washing out.

Which is why the rear brake is dangerous as the bike moves it's weight forward and off the rear and that tyre is therefore loose under all braking conditions.
 
I see you are quite right Sinbad.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_braking_system

Very interesting.

I wonder then what Fanie was feeling. Or if the ABS was in fact in play and feels a bit different that described.

On my Triumph the rear ABS felt like a gunshot went off which would push back and then the pedal would lose all pressure and sink away but it's a single action.

On my BMW it feels more like a car and it kicks back repeatedly but more subtly.

I don't remember ever locking it up on the Hondas I rode.
 
As part of the DCT package, Honda’s Combined ABS links the front and rear calipers to the brake pedal. When the pedal is depressed, the rear brake is activated and a proportioning valve varies the percentage of power delivered to the front wheel’s 320mm disc in an effort to optimize the use of both brakes. Lightly applying the brake pedal feels as if the proportioning valve is initially only sending power to the 240mm rear, but increasing the pedal pressure causes the front end to dive slightly, reflecting the effects of both brakes being utilized. The front brake is controlled independently by two of the caliper’s three pistons. ABS kicks in if either wheel reaches a threshold for impending lockup. While not as powerful as more sporting brakes, they are more than capable of getting the job done with a firm pull at the lever.
 
I find myself generally braking with the front only now, unless I need to brake hard, then when I stop I press and hold the pedal and release the front.
 
Sinbad said:
I find myself generally braking with the front only now, unless I need to brake hard, then when I stop I press and hold the pedal and release the front.
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The big secret with (as per your training I'm sure) is never to grab but to squeeze instead.

You want to apply only a hint of brakes to start so the forks compress and weight shifts to the front tire and THEN apply the rest to stop dead.

Which is why most people fail in a panic as they grab the lever, no compression takes place and the front locks. Then you hopefully bought the one with ABS and that saves your ass.

I have never been able to lock the fronts on any bike with ABS. Or without ABS for that matter.

But locking the rear and crashing is incredibly easy. And there are some idiots out there teaching people some bollocks about using the rear brakes only. /face palm.
 
Ja I have abs :D

Yup, in the training, emphasis was on progressive with everything.
 
SauRoNZA said:
It was a brand new bike off the floor right?

Your tyres are still new, that's the problem.

You need at least 100km across the tyre before giving it horns.

Try doing some bob and weave to wear the edges down when you can (in the dry).

****

Also stay the hell away from painted lines, manhole covers and the like. Specifically in the wet but might as well do it in the dry as well so it's a habit.
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I've already done over 600km
 
I like to balance the bike to a stop with the rear brakes, but it's wasteful, so I've stopped doing that.
I wore out the rear pads at 10'000km. Even after switching to mostly front brakes, the front pads will make it to 30'000km.

d7e7r7 said:
I'd say I'm shorter than average but not super short... Must I measure my height?
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Just to give you an idea of seat heights... the shape also comes into play, and you can get shaved-down seats:

At 1.68m, without boots the NC750X seat at 830mm requires me to stand on one toe.
The CBR500 seat at 784mm lets me easily flat foot.
To me that helps a lot with the comfort.
 
And that 830mm in itself is pretty average but because the seat is so wide and square it makes it taller than the measure itself.

A sports bike of the same height like the Street Triple is much easier for shorter folks.

A Multistrada on the other hand is massively tall.
 
faniedry said:
So here's another feature about my NC750XD that I didn't know about.

Riding in this morning with the wet roads I stop at the front between the cars, at the robot. Robot turns green, I pull away. The backend just slips out side ways. Man down. The car that was to the left of me, a bakkie, it's side is against my frontwheel and the fukker just wants to keep driving. Bliksem, so I almost smashed his window telling him to STAHP! YOU DUMB FUKK! Anyway, So I pick up the bike, and because the bike is kinda top light, it picked up quite easily. But that's not the feature I was talking about. Before I get back on, I put it on it's stand and have a quick look to survey the damage. Vokkol. Not a scratch, not a chip, vokkol! <- You can clap now, that's the feature I mentioned up top.

Needless to say the rest of the ride was taken with much more care. I have absolutely no idea what happened. Maybe too much torque for the wet road, maybe I was on the white line, maybe there was a bit of oil or something on the road. Who knows.
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Last week we did an evening ride. Cuz (on the XDiavel) and me on the 48 lined up (never ever been a good thing since we learned to drive). Light goes green and we're both on the throttle, forgot he has about twic as much tyre on the ground than me, My rear wheel lit up and the bike went full on tilt! :crylaugh:
My brother behind us was laughing until we arrived at our destination.


SauRoNZA said:
Always more front brake than rear brake.

ALWAYS.

Even no rear brake at all is better than doing it the wrong way round.

Doesn't the NC have linked brakes? Then it might be the sensation of it self-pressuring the pedal.

ABS should "kick" back and then go pap. Feels like the swingarm snaps the first time you feel it and is very sensitive on the rear brakes of most ABS bikes.

But Honda loves their dual brakes so it's probably that. In which case you don't even ever need to use the pedal (bad habit but Ja).
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Indeed. Learned that the hard way :D
Lined up at a traffic light, I hear a rumble on my right. There's a V-rod to the right of the car on my right.
Light goes green and we're both on it. This is from the Robot going to ICC from V&A (one before lower long). Lights are green at the next robot and then the adderley street circle, so I know we're both going to gun for the circle first.
I drag out ist and 2nd, still ahead of the V-Rod and then realise there's very little braking time, so I step on the pedal (for fear of braking too hard in front then flipping the bike) and the back wheel locks up (when I learned that the ABS only works on the front brake). WEEEEEE rear wheel sliding and front wheel turning. Skrikked me stukkend, but luckily never fell. Made the turn into the circle too :D:whistle:

TheFriendlyGhost said:
i was reading one of the biker magazines this week and the SPIRIT Bluetooth is quite reasonable - specs seem pretty decent
https://www.spiritmotorcycles.co.za.../bluetooth-helmet-intercom-system-detail.html
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We just got ourselves the Scala rider pack. (4 x riders)Works lekker. Still trying to get used to having these fokkers talking directly into my head, but I must say, it works awesome.
 
Hey, I'm new here. Sorry if this question has been asked before!

Does anyone know of any good places to practice slow-speed maneuvering stuff in CPT? I'm thinking parking lots... Recently getting back into riding, so just want to go there early/late one day and mess around, get a feel for my bike. Obviously most places aren't too keen on random bikers in their lots, understandably :p
 
Usually new development areas are a good bet.

Or you can join the learner driver brigade there in Montague Gardens where the Makro used to be.

Miles and miles of parking area where Dockside was from I seem to remember.
 
Sinbad said:
The link is between back and front, not the other way round. The pedal actuates the middle pot of the front caliper, the lever actuates the other two.
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Not fun when you forget that your current bike, unlike the previous 2, does in fact not have ABS. That panic grip on the brakes is a very hard habit to change.
 
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