Peering congestion is causing ADSL problems, says source

Paul Hjul

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mmmm so the big boys need to invest more in peering - and render it settlement free ...

I am not able to work out:
"We have clients on Internet Solutions’ network, and it looks like the link is saturated from Telkom to IS, but is not saturated from IS to Telkom. This may show that IS is not fulfilling their obligation to upgrade their link as required"

which direction is the balance of traffic?
 

magneto

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lol aug 2002

@RPM so where this so called network analysis report??
thought you would have put in article and not just talk, show it? put it out there so the ISP can't just deny it.

"Internet Solutions denied that there is any congestion on their peering link"
 

Valhallan

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mmmm so the big boys need to invest more in peering - and render it settlement free ...

I am not able to work out:
"We have clients on Internet Solutions’ network, and it looks like the link is saturated from Telkom to IS, but is not saturated from IS to Telkom. This may show that IS is not fulfilling their obligation to upgrade their link as required"

which direction is the balance of traffic?

I'm not sure but if your up-link is jammed up then acknowledge packets cant get back to you and it screws up your connection....latency and connection through put. :confused:
 
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HavocXphere

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Well something is definitely wrong in the world of ADSL & I hope they all grow up and fix it instead of playing passive aggressive peering wars.
 

hawker

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Well something is definitely wrong in the world of ADSL & I hope they all grow up and fix it instead of playing passive aggressive peering wars.

Maybe this explains Afrihosts incredible shaping lately!
 

Alastairo

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lol aug 2002
"Internet Solutions denied that there is any congestion on their peering link"
So where do I go to not be part of this stupidity.
I am with Imaginet and my uploads are much faster than the downloads
Any suggestions?
 

Necuno

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lol aug 2002

@RPM so where this so called network analysis report??
thought you would have put in article and not just talk, show it? put it out there so the ISP can't just deny it.

"Internet Solutions denied that there is any congestion on their peering link"

Here!? What is this black magic you speak of :eek:
 

JacoMuller

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When restrictive or paid for peering is involved, it's usually the end user who is affected
 

magneto

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paste a traceroute

So where do I go to not be part of this stupidity.
I am with Imaginet and my uploads are much faster than the downloads
Any suggestions?

IDK, they stated it in the the article
"MyBroadband has been provided with network analysis which points to peering link issues between Telkom and MTN, and Telkom and Internet Solutions. According to the information"

Here!? What is this black magic you speak of :eek:
 

cfilorux

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Peering links. Um, okay. What has peering got to do with ADSL? I didn't know that ADSL traffic as such runs over peering links. Does it? I thought ADSL data was delivered to the ISP, and only from there does it become first class IP traffic, at which point peering is an issue ... I would love my ADSL to use a peering link, but I really don't think it works like that. Once it's peering, ADSL is many hops back.
 

mkultra77

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So where do I go to not be part of this stupidity.
I am with Imaginet and my uploads are much faster than the downloads
Any suggestions?
I too would like to know what ISP to move to, I am with mweb and it is completely useless right now.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.2
2 1152 ms 1166 ms 1209 ms 41-132-24-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.24.1]
3 1100 ms 1119 ms 1143 ms 197-80-96-186.jhb.mweb.co.za [197.80.96.186]
4 1151 ms 999 ms 872 ms vl-92.vic-hscore-1.mweb.co.za [197.80.2.1]
5 957 ms 1015 ms 1015 ms tengig0-0-0-2.11.vic-p-2.mweb.co.za [197.80.5.22
6]
6 936 ms 928 ms 1020 ms 197-80-7-37.jhb.mweb.co.za [197.80.7.37]
7 1158 ms 1220 ms 1200 ms jhb.telkom-ipnet.co.za [197.80.4.117]
8 1182 ms 1208 ms 1238 ms 196.43.25.137
9 874 ms 1026 ms 1069 ms 196.43.39.166
10 1056 ms 934 ms 849 ms rrba-ip-bssr-1-ge-2-48.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.4
3.23.6]
11 836 ms 887 ms 859 ms nbsc-ip-bssr-1-atm-5-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [1
96.43.23.30]
12 836 ms 884 ms 958 ms nbsc-ip-rcache-1-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43
.22.222]

:(
 

Hectic

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I too would like to know what ISP to move to, I am with mweb and it is completely useless right now.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.2
2 1152 ms 1166 ms 1209 ms 41-132-24-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.24.1]
3 1100 ms 1119 ms 1143 ms 197-80-96-186.jhb.mweb.co.za [197.80.96.186]
4 1151 ms 999 ms 872 ms vl-92.vic-hscore-1.mweb.co.za [197.80.2.1]
5 957 ms 1015 ms 1015 ms tengig0-0-0-2.11.vic-p-2.mweb.co.za [197.80.5.22
6]
6 936 ms 928 ms 1020 ms 197-80-7-37.jhb.mweb.co.za [197.80.7.37]
7 1158 ms 1220 ms 1200 ms jhb.telkom-ipnet.co.za [197.80.4.117]
8 1182 ms 1208 ms 1238 ms 196.43.25.137
9 874 ms 1026 ms 1069 ms 196.43.39.166
10 1056 ms 934 ms 849 ms rrba-ip-bssr-1-ge-2-48.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.4
3.23.6]
11 836 ms 887 ms 859 ms nbsc-ip-bssr-1-atm-5-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [1
96.43.23.30]
12 836 ms 884 ms 958 ms nbsc-ip-rcache-1-vif0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43
.22.222]

:(

If congestion is the problem, then changing ISP won't help.

Register for a free 1GB account at Afrihost and test with that account and see if there is a difference.

You can also pm the Telkom rep (TelkomZA) here on the forum and provide him with your details and traceroute. He might be able to help if it is a Telkom issue.
 
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mkultra77

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Thanks for the reply RoMark. I am trying the free Afrihost 1GB right now and I am having the same problem. So it could be a Telkom problem.
 

Hectic

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I would then suggest you pm TelkomZA and explain your problem. They have build quite a reputation since adding their services here on the forum.
Good luck with your problem. I had similar problems, although not so bad as your stats
 
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