Router Battery Backup

Saba'a said:
A R1000? Surely not that cheap?
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Well let's see, you need:
  1. AC to DC transformer
  2. A power supply circuit that can take the incoming power and split it to multiple outputs, and safely, so they must be fused etc.
  3. A charge circuit for the battery.
  4. Of course a switching circuit so you can go from AC to battery when the power drops.
  5. An enclosure
  6. Random cables and connectors.
  7. NOT INCLUDING BATTERY
You generally get all these things in a CCTV or alarm power supply - and you can price those on Takealot or anywhere. I think the smaller ones start around R 600 or more (going from memory, I bought almost 3 years ago).
Add in some extras like DC cables, a custom enclosure and profit margin, and R 1000 is not bad at all.
(NOT to mention labour - took me 2 weekends to set mine up. I'm no handyman or electronics expert tho)

Can't remember if this one does anything other than 12V out. If it does, you need more extras and more work setting it up (buck converters).
Can't remember if this one came with a battery - if so then it's really cheap.

(P.S. you get MUCH cheaper CCTV power supplies but they don't take batteries.)
 
This looks like the type of thing that may be of interest in this thread.
Anybody know anything about this brand?

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Flexopower Lithium 555Wh Portable Power Pack

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K3NS31 said:
This looks like the type of thing that may be of interest in this thread.
Anybody know anything about this brand?

www.sustainable.co.za

Flexopower Lithium 555Wh Portable Power Pack

Features Lithium battery: Quality Lithium battery in 4 series configurations. 555Wh / 150 000mAh capacity. Serviceable Lithium battery: Once end of battery life is reached, replace with a new battery at Flexopower or authorized dealer. Other power stations in this class do not have this feature...
www.sustainable.co.za www.sustainable.co.za
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:X3: 10k damn i can build a lot of DIY backups :). I think everyone is looking at budget/diy friendly solutions.
 
K3NS31 said:
This - I don't trust myself to make safe battery packs. (or most people actually - easy to make a decent one, hard to make a properly safe one).
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Nothing is safe :) but yeah I like to build my own stuff at least I know what is in there and its build according to my power requirements.
 
x7razor said:
Nothing is safe :) but yeah I like to build my own stuff at least I know what is in there and its build according to my power requirements.
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Do you build your own battery packs? What do you use? I'd much prefer a custom solution but am concerned about the amount of power I'd have lying around the house that could go boom if I made a small mistake somewhere or didn't spec it properly
 
Some feedback for those interested in the Gizzu 296wh.

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Since the one Takealot had delivered to me was DoA, and no possibility of replacement, I found out a friend had one so he came with it to test at my place before I laid down cash for a Synapse UPS + Hubble Battery.

For a device rated at 300W output, i thought it would run my 115W-130W load with no issue. Alas, as soon as the CCTV/Alarm added to the mix (using about 50W) as detailed here , the thing decides it's too much and power delivery can't be maintained so it starts cutting out.

Anyway, put an end to the the hope that it could work. However, for the 60-80W load (ONT, FW, Switches, APs, hubs , PC , external disk) .. it was fine. Friend only runs it for his ONT and router and USB devices if needed, so he is happy with it.

It does work as a 'UPS' ... so power delivery does not stop when mains is lost.
 
TedLasso said:
Friend only runs it for his ONT and router and USB devices if needed, so he is happy with it.

It does work as a 'UPS' ... so power delivery does not stop when mains is lost.
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There is a review on takealot that claims that it is not a UPS ...
Bit of a waste of a product if it is only for ONT, router and USB - your normal R900 gizzu can handle that. Unless the router is one of those that need 19V of course.
 
ld13 said:
There is a review on takealot that claims that it is not a UPS ...
Bit of a waste of a product if it is only for ONT, router and USB - your normal R900 gizzu can handle that. Unless the router is one of those that need 19V of course.
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There was also a review that said it worked like a UPS , hence why I originally bought that and ditched another power pack from OneDayOnly. So I made sure I tested the 'UPS' functionality too. I connected a small 5w bedside light to the plug output and then dropped the power on it's incoming feed. The light stayed on without dropping/flickering, hence I said, it seems to work like a UPS.

For my mate, it's definitely overkill, but he is not one for going deep into electrical stuff. He is also going to use it for camping - he needs fast fibre internet when LS hits to continue working from home so he has a dual purpose for it. It just sucks that it can't handle 130w - 150w of load ... otherwise it would have been perfect for me. Hoping his is not slightly faulty too but I didn't say anything :)
 
TedLasso said:
There was also a review that said it worked like a UPS , hence why I originally bought that and ditched another power pack from OneDayOnly. So I made sure I tested the 'UPS' functionality too. I connected a small 5w bedside light to the plug output and then dropped the power on it's incoming feed. The light stayed on without dropping/flickering, hence I said, it seems to work like a UPS.

For my mate, it's definitely overkill, but he is not one for going deep into electrical stuff. He is also going to use it for camping - he needs fast fibre internet when LS hits to continue working from home so he has a dual purpose for it. It just sucks that it can't handle 130w - 150w of load ... otherwise it would have been perfect for me. Hoping his is not slightly faulty too but I didn't say anything :)
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There are reviews on Takealot saying they run 40" TVs with this. If my older 40" TV is rated at 150W then I suppose it won't run it, even though one can set it to different energy saving modes?
 
joshuatree said:
There are reviews on Takealot saying they run 40" TVs with this. If my older 40" TV is rated at 150W then I suppose it won't run it, even though one can set it to different energy saving modes?
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YMMV. Perhaps my mates Gizzu is also a bit fcked . Anyway, that's two for me that haven't worked so won't be looking at them again.
 
onlinepaul said:
A friend of mine sent me a link to some Cape Town guys who put together this thing:
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WiBox | Wifi UPS | Keep Your Wifi On During Loadshedding | Arion Power

The WiBox is a mini UPS (Uninterrupted Power Supply), by Arion Power, to power your router and fibre box during power outages.
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One can specify voltages for router and ONT.
Of course it's not a free DIY solution.
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I was also looking at this, seems that it would be a much better option than the mini ups (as you would be able to replace the battery.
 
What's a nice cheap option for a Cybersmart FG8002N (12v / 1a) and TP-Link Archer C80 (12v / 1a)? Will the Gizzu 8800mAh be sufficient?
 
squirrel said:
What's a nice cheap option for a Cybersmart FG8002N (12v / 1a) and TP-Link Archer C80 (12v / 1a)? Will the Gizzu 8800mAh be sufficient?
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ld13 said:
More than sufficient. Those ONT's barely eat any power.
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Even routers - someone on Youtube did a test for this same scenario - backup battery or UPS or something, so he wanted to hook it up directly to DC.
Router was rated 9V or 12V, ended up working on 5V iirc.
If you look at the power requirement of your device you'll probably see it's under 12 watts (12v x 1A)
 
K3NS31 said:
Even routers - someone on Youtube did a test for this same scenario - backup battery or UPS or something, so he wanted to hook it up directly to DC.
Router was rated 9V or 12V, ended up working on 5V iirc.
If you look at the power requirement of your device you'll probably see it's under 12 watts (12v x 1A)
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Maybe. But I see plenty of Takelot reviewers complaing that the Vizia mini UPSes with LG batteries are packing up in about a year or less. This may be because they are draining them too much with one device powering ONT and router. I personally have a seperate mini UPS per device, I have two routers and the ONT and use 3 backup solutions, one is an Ellies Cube Mini. If they only drain 10-20% after 2.5 hours, good. They'll last, way way longer.
 
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