Router Battery Backup

Mirai said:
Maybe. But I see plenty of Takelot reviewers complaing that the Vizia mini UPSes with LG batteries are packing up in about a year or less. This may be because they are draining them too much with one device powering ONT and router. I personally have a seperate mini UPS per device, I have two routers and the ONT and use 3 backup solutions, one is an Ellies Cube Mini. If they only drain 10-20% after 2.5 hours, good. They'll last, way way longer.
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Yeah people don't bother to work out battery requirements. And the worse problem is that the manufacturers seldom tell you how many batteries they have and in what configuration. (And what type of battery).

That's part of the reason I went with a diy option. Customised to my needs.
 
My Eaton UPS with 2 x Blue Nova 8ah lithium batteries powered ONT and Router for over 7 hours when we had a 11 hour power outage. And the next day handled the 4 hours power outage just fine after having 12 hours to charge.
 
supersunbird said:
My Eaton UPS with 2 x Blue Nova 8ah lithium batteries powered ONT and Router for over 7 hours when we had a 11 hour power outage. And the next day handled the 4 hours power outage just fine after having 12 hours to charge.
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I read that replacing lead-acid batteries with lithium ones in your ups may not be safe. Perhaps the chargers in those UPS aren't made to charge lithium.

Not sure but seems risky especially since lithium batteries are known to be quite volatile in certain conditions.
 
Park@82 said:
I read that replacing lead-acid batteries with lithium ones in your ups may not be safe. Perhaps the chargers in those UPS aren't made to charge lithium.

Not sure but seems risky especially since lithium batteries are known to be quite volatile in certain conditions.
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Novas are rated to be drop-in replacements for LA with their own BMS
 
What should one do with a Gizzu when there is no planned loadshedding? Leave it plugged in running the router, or switch it off and power the router via the mains?
 
ziyaad.jak said:
What should one do with a Gizzu when there is no planned loadshedding? Leave it plugged in running the router, or switch it off and power the router via the mains?
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Just leave it plugged in. YOLO. Been doing that since day one and have not noticed any issues.
 
Park@82 said:
I read that replacing lead-acid batteries with lithium ones in your ups may not be safe. Perhaps the chargers in those UPS aren't made to charge lithium.

Not sure but seems risky especially since lithium batteries are known to be quite volatile in certain conditions.
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Only buying loose cells and using without a BMS could cause trouble. Drop in should work fine.
 
Park@82 said:
I read that replacing lead-acid batteries with lithium ones in your ups may not be safe. Perhaps the chargers in those UPS aren't made to charge lithium.
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Drops in's works perfectly fine the build in BMS takes care of everything. Have done a RCT ups for someone installed a blue nova more than a year ago and its still running fine. Lithium gives you way more cycles and a deeper discharge than your LA battery.
 
x7razor said:
Drops in's works perfectly fine the build in BMS takes care of everything. Have done a RCT ups for someone installed a blue nova more than a year ago and its still running fine. Lithium gives you way more cycles and a deeper discharge than your LA battery.
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I've replaced all my UPS batteries with the Blue Nova's - so far no problems! (And no more constant replacements)

EDIT: Bar one very old UPS, my RCT powers a couple raspberry Pi's, a 220v switch, and 2 access points for approximately 1.5 hours on the 7Ah equivalent
 
Park@82 said:
I read that replacing lead-acid batteries with lithium ones in your ups may not be safe. Perhaps the chargers in those UPS aren't made to charge lithium.

Not sure but seems risky especially since lithium batteries are known to be quite volatile in certain conditions.
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I use the Blue Nova's in my two UPS's and done four for a customer, way better option than the lead acid.
 
After months of waiting I can finally announce that Nology has landed stock of the new Netogy UPS100 Plus.
The stock arrived this week (those ships take long to get here).

The NETOGY UPS100 Plus is an uninterruptible power supply that supplies uninterrupted power to multiple equipment and devices (like modems, routers, CCTV cameras, laptops, etc.) of various voltages simultaneously, making it the perfect device for load shedding. Power your LTE router for up to 8 hours, or your Wi-Fi Router plus Fibre ONT for up to 4 hours.
Features:
  • Emergency uninterruptible power supply, perfect for load shedding
  • Can be used as a power bank
  • High output power (100W) capable of powering multiple devices simultaneously
  • Suitable for most digital devices with 8 x DC outputs supporting multiple voltages and 2 x 5V USB ports
  • High-capacity (14400mAh hours) Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) battery (8x1800mAh cells)
  • Safeguards against power surges, spikes, dips and failure
  • Protects voltage sensitive devices
  • Intelligent circuit design with over-charging, over-discharging and short circuit protection
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For more info please visit: https://nology.co.za/products/connected-home/backup-power/netogy-ups100-plus-detail
The UPS comes with the following cables: a Y-splitter with 2.1mm connectors, a 1m cable with 2.1mm connectors and 2x 2.1-to-2.5mm adapters, and of course the 2-pin AC power cable.

Before you ask... yes it does have the same internals as another 100W UPS on the market, but I can assure you it will be cheaper by a good margin... think R1,000-ish.
Since the stock just arrived its not yet on the shelves but the moment I hear of an online store that has ordered I will let you guys know.
 
killerbyte said:
After months of waiting I can finally announce that Nology has landed stock of the new Netogy UPS100 Plus.
The stock arrived this week (those ships take long to get here).

The NETOGY UPS100 Plus is an uninterruptible power supply that supplies uninterrupted power to multiple equipment and devices (like modems, routers, CCTV cameras, laptops, etc.) of various voltages simultaneously, making it the perfect device for load shedding. Power your LTE router for up to 8 hours, or your Wi-Fi Router plus Fibre ONT for up to 4 hours.
Features:
  • Emergency uninterruptible power supply, perfect for load shedding
  • Can be used as a power bank
  • High output power (100W) capable of powering multiple devices simultaneously
  • Suitable for most digital devices with 8 x DC outputs supporting multiple voltages and 2 x 5V USB ports
  • High-capacity (14400mAh hours) Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) battery (8x1800mAh cells)
  • Safeguards against power surges, spikes, dips and failure
  • Protects voltage sensitive devices
  • Intelligent circuit design with over-charging, over-discharging and short circuit protection
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For more info please visit: https://nology.co.za/products/connected-home/backup-power/netogy-ups100-plus-detail
The UPS comes with the following cables: a Y-splitter with 2.1mm connectors, a 1m cable with 2.1mm connectors and 2x 2.1-to-2.5mm adapters, and of course the 2-pin AC power cable.

Before you ask... yes it does have the same internals as another 100W UPS on the market, but I can assure you it will be cheaper by a good margin... think R1,000-ish.
Since the stock just arrived its not yet on the shelves but the moment I hear of an online store that has ordered I will let you guys know.
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Ratel 8100 or?
 
killerbyte said:
After months of waiting I can finally announce that Nology has landed stock of the new Netogy UPS100 Plus.
The stock arrived this week (those ships take long to get here).

The NETOGY UPS100 Plus is an uninterruptible power supply that supplies uninterrupted power to multiple equipment and devices (like modems, routers, CCTV cameras, laptops, etc.) of various voltages simultaneously, making it the perfect device for load shedding. Power your LTE router for up to 8 hours, or your Wi-Fi Router plus Fibre ONT for up to 4 hours.
Features:
  • Emergency uninterruptible power supply, perfect for load shedding
  • Can be used as a power bank
  • High output power (100W) capable of powering multiple devices simultaneously
  • Suitable for most digital devices with 8 x DC outputs supporting multiple voltages and 2 x 5V USB ports
  • High-capacity (14400mAh hours) Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) battery (8x1800mAh cells)
  • Safeguards against power surges, spikes, dips and failure
  • Protects voltage sensitive devices
  • Intelligent circuit design with over-charging, over-discharging and short circuit protection
View attachment 1213358

For more info please visit: https://nology.co.za/products/connected-home/backup-power/netogy-ups100-plus-detail
The UPS comes with the following cables: a Y-splitter with 2.1mm connectors, a 1m cable with 2.1mm connectors and 2x 2.1-to-2.5mm adapters, and of course the 2-pin AC power cable.

Before you ask... yes it does have the same internals as another 100W UPS on the market, but I can assure you it will be cheaper by a good margin... think R1,000-ish.
Since the stock just arrived its not yet on the shelves but the moment I hear of an online store that has ordered I will let you guys know.
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No POE?
 
killerbyte said:
After months of waiting I can finally announce that Nology has landed stock of the new Netogy UPS100 Plus.
The stock arrived this week (those ships take long to get here).

The NETOGY UPS100 Plus is an uninterruptible power supply that supplies uninterrupted power to multiple equipment and devices (like modems, routers, CCTV cameras, laptops, etc.) of various voltages simultaneously, making it the perfect device for load shedding. Power your LTE router for up to 8 hours, or your Wi-Fi Router plus Fibre ONT for up to 4 hours.
Features:
  • Emergency uninterruptible power supply, perfect for load shedding
  • Can be used as a power bank
  • High output power (100W) capable of powering multiple devices simultaneously
  • Suitable for most digital devices with 8 x DC outputs supporting multiple voltages and 2 x 5V USB ports
  • High-capacity (14400mAh hours) Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) battery (8x1800mAh cells)
  • Safeguards against power surges, spikes, dips and failure
  • Protects voltage sensitive devices
  • Intelligent circuit design with over-charging, over-discharging and short circuit protection
View attachment 1213358

For more info please visit: https://nology.co.za/products/connected-home/backup-power/netogy-ups100-plus-detail
The UPS comes with the following cables: a Y-splitter with 2.1mm connectors, a 1m cable with 2.1mm connectors and 2x 2.1-to-2.5mm adapters, and of course the 2-pin AC power cable.

Before you ask... yes it does have the same internals as another 100W UPS on the market, but I can assure you it will be cheaper by a good margin... think R1,000-ish.
Since the stock just arrived its not yet on the shelves but the moment I hear of an online store that has ordered I will let you guys know.
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The one thing stopping me from getting that is the difficulty in getting the charging cable for a laptop :(
 
Inside the UltraLAN Micro UPS (DC & PoE) - 60W 17.6AH if anyone was interested :)

Main Board
BMS is build into the main board so nothing inside the battery pack. Little bad if something goes wrong BMS inside battery pack would be easier to replace.

18650 4s Battery Pack
Not sure on the quality of the cells will need to test them later. Roofer 2200mAh 8.14Wh pack consists of 8 cells which gives you 14.8v nominal and if fully charged 16.8v.

Battery Pack Connectors
Both the thick red and black wires is connected on the same spot using one set for output and other for charging. The only thing that is weird to me is the balance lead. A 4s pack needs 5 wires for balance charging this only has 3 wires so not sure why they only added 3 wires.

Battery Voltage Of Pack
This a fully charged pack so they do not let it charge to 100% capacity. It's roughly at (+- 90%) capacity which is a good thing it gives you longer battery life and cycles but less runtime.
 
x7razor said:
Inside the UltraLAN Micro UPS (DC & PoE) - 60W 17.6AH if anyone was interested :)

Main Board
BMS is build into the main board so nothing inside the battery pack. Little bad if something goes wrong BMS inside battery pack would be easier to replace.

18650 4s Battery Pack
Not sure on the quality of the cells will need to test them later. Roofer 2200mAh 8.14Wh pack consists of 8 cells which gives you 14.8v nominal and if fully charged 16.8v.

Battery Pack Connectors
Both the thick red and black wires is connected on the same spot using one set for output and other for charging. The only thing that is weird to me is the balance lead. A 4s pack needs 5 wires for balance charging this only has 3 wires so not sure why they only added 3 wires.

Battery Voltage Of Pack
This a fully charged pack so they do not let it charge to 100% capacity. It's roughly at (+- 90%) capacity which is a good thing it gives you longer battery life and cycles but less runtime.
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Photos?
 
My router and ONT have differend voltages 12 and 9v. But I have a few of these 7.2Ah brick batteries that I use for camping and fishing and also a good proper charger for them. So I just bought a cheap 300w inverter(R320) and its running like a dream. Ran it once for 4 hours on one battery. Have nothing to test, but battery took less than 3hours to fully charge again and the charger is max 1amp, so it probably did not discharge battery too bad.
 
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