mikrotik accepts 8-30V DC or POE
mine is happily running on 12V from Ultralan UPS if you using POE to power other devices you would need to look at power requirements carefully
-
Join the MyBroadband community
South Africa’s biggest forum. Discuss, discover, and connect with thousands of members.
-
Question of the Day: What is the ultimate French toast topping?
Router Battery Backup
- Thread starter werfie
- Start date
-
- Tags
- adsl load shedding router ups
mikrotik accepts 8-30V DC or POE
mine is happily running on 12V from Ultralan UPS if you using POE to power other devices you would need to look at power requirements carefully
The description says that it's passive POE. Normally passive does not do gigabit POE?Here we go,Ultralan
Mini UPS
Buy Mini UPS online at the Best Prices! Door to Door and Overnight Delivery. Voted the best online store in SA. View Herewww.geewiz.co.za
Is that a passive PoE injector? You know you can get the single port version for like 50 bucks. From scoop and most other places, right?Made my Ratel 860P POE port gigabit capable by using a POE Splitter and feeding the output into one of these:
Adds a bit to the cost, but now I can drive my two gigabit Ubiquity APs from 1 UPS. Works great!
4 Port Gigabit Passive PoE Injector
Scoop's POE-4G is a 4-Port Gigabit Passive PoE Injector. The unit supports an input voltage of 12-57V and can be Wall-Mounted.scoop.co.za
Edit: adding link:
Single Port Fast Ethernet Passive PoE Injector
Scoop's POE is a single port Fast Ethernet Passive PoE Injector. The unit supports an input voltage of 9-48V and can be Wall-Mounted.
scoop.co.za
Passive is just a passthrough. Shouldn't affect the speed, unless they've made a point to not connect all the pins internally.
Single Port Gigabit Passive PoE Injector
Scoop's POE-GIG is a single port Gigabit Passive PoE Injector. The unit supports an input voltage of 9-48V and can be Wall-Mounted.
scoop.co.za
we use these and they work perfectly
except ubiquity dish wants 24V POE and AP uses 48V so had to split them
Here we go,Ultralan
Mini UPS
Buy Mini UPS online at the Best Prices! Door to Door and Overnight Delivery. Voted the best online store in SA. View Here
more like a cheap gizzu copy
i use this ultralan and works perfectly
Mini UPS DC to DC with USB and PoE Output Power Over Ethernet - 32.56Wh (8800mAH)
The UltraLAN MUPS17W8.8AH is a compact DC-to-DC mini UPS with USB, PoE and DC output options, ideal for providing backup power to cameras, routers and other 12V devices. The UltraLAN MUPS17W8.8AH model offers passive PoE output additionally, ideal to keep your Wireless CPE or Router (such as...
www.geewiz.co.za
PsyWulf
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2006
- Messages
- 20,358
- Reaction score
- 16,003
I'm missing the Gigabit Ethernet port on your linked one. You just chiming in to piss on something?
PsyWulf
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2006
- Messages
- 20,358
- Reaction score
- 16,003
Passive on Base100 was using the unused pairs
On Gigabit you need to do some wanga wanga to split the data and power from the same pairs
PsyWulf
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2006
- Messages
- 20,358
- Reaction score
- 16,003
Gigabit Power over Ethernet (PoE) Injector - MiRO Distribution
The Acconet POE-24V-30WPG (PSE4805-24-G) passive PoE injector delivers 24V DC power and Gigabit data transmission through a single Ethernet cable. It is designed to power 24V PoE devices, including wireless access points, IP phones, and security cameras, in areas without accessible power...
miro.co.za
PoE Injectors | Scoop
Power Over Ethernet Injectors enable you to power supported devices over an Ethernet connection. We have a range of PoE-injectors available from 24v to 50v, fast ethernet, and gigabit supported speeds. We also offer IEEE 802.3af/at compliant PoE units commonly used to power IP Phones and Cameras.
scoop.co.za
It's a thing,a rare thing,but a thing
Interesting. I would like to see the approach behind this, as active gigabit POE is pretty complex to modulate the signal with the power. Also what are the pros and cons of each approach?Gigabit Power over Ethernet (PoE) Injector - MiRO Distribution
The Acconet POE-24V-30WPG (PSE4805-24-G) passive PoE injector delivers 24V DC power and Gigabit data transmission through a single Ethernet cable. It is designed to power 24V PoE devices, including wireless access points, IP phones, and security cameras, in areas without accessible power...PoE Injectors | Scoop
Power Over Ethernet Injectors enable you to power supported devices over an Ethernet connection. We have a range of PoE-injectors available from 24v to 50v, fast ethernet, and gigabit supported speeds. We also offer IEEE 802.3af/at compliant PoE units commonly used to power IP Phones and Cameras.
It's a thing,a rare thing,but a thing
PsyWulf
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2006
- Messages
- 20,358
- Reaction score
- 16,003
Wikipedia says:
In a passive PoE system, the injector does not communicate with the powered device to negotiate its voltage or wattage requirements, but merely supplies power at all times. The common 100 Mbit/s passive applications use the pinout of 802.3af mode B (see § Pinouts) – with DC positive on pins 4 and 5 and DC negative on 7 and 8 and data on 1-2 and 3-6. Gigabit passive injectors use a transformer on the data pins to allow power and data to share the cable and are typically compatible with 802.3af Mode A
Yep. Thanks. I was just reading this article that also links to a Netgear site, with a good summary:
Power Over Ethernet (POE) ( Beginners Guide)
Power Over Ethernet (POE) allows you to power remote devices like IP cameras, Wireless access points over the Ethernet cable and avoids the need to install a power source at the remote location.
stevessmarthomeguide.com
So passive POE can be dc only on the spare pins for 10/100, or dc with the signal modulated over the same pins for gigabit POE.
Active POE additionally provides protection with some level of intelligence that only switched on the power if the connected device is a POE device.
Never too old to learn
PsyWulf
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2006
- Messages
- 20,358
- Reaction score
- 16,003
Passive was invented first and had some misses,Active is miles better indeed
There are some other less-popular standards like Cisco's earlier PoE too
There are some other less-popular standards like Cisco's earlier PoE too
Yep. Thanks. I was just reading this article that also links to a Netgear site, with a good summary:
Power Over Ethernet (POE) ( Beginners Guide)
Power Over Ethernet (POE) allows you to power remote devices like IP cameras, Wireless access points over the Ethernet cable and avoids the need to install a power source at the remote location.stevessmarthomeguide.com
So passive POE can be dc only on the spare pins for 10/100, or dc with the signal modulated over the same pins for gigabit POE.
Active POE additionally provides protection with some level of intelligence that only switched on the power if the connected device is a POE device.
Never too old to learn
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
The Ellies is not an “in line” UPS as I recall and would require you changing over power manually every time you want to use it.
It’s more like a portable power solution for camping etc.
Katelknaap
Expert Member
Not correct, my Ellies cube's been quietly powering the the router and ONT for some time without any interference from me.
Lord Flacko
Expert Member
That’s not true, once load shedding kicks in I do nothing. My ONT box and router are powered for 13 hours. Plug in and forget.
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
My apologies I didn’t realise the small one is also called a cube…even though it’s rectangular.
I was referring to these…which have magically doubled/tripled in price.
www.geewiz.co.za
I was referring to these…which have magically doubled/tripled in price.
Cube 1000 Tactical Power Station 1000Wh life P04 battery with solar charger capacity
Cube 1000 Tactical Power Station 1000Wh life P04 battery with solar charger capacity
Yep. Thanks. I was just reading this article that also links to a Netgear site, with a good summary:
Power Over Ethernet (POE) ( Beginners Guide)
Power Over Ethernet (POE) allows you to power remote devices like IP cameras, Wireless access points over the Ethernet cable and avoids the need to install a power source at the remote location.stevessmarthomeguide.com
So passive POE can be dc only on the spare pins for 10/100, or dc with the signal modulated over the same pins for gigabit POE.
Active POE additionally provides protection with some level of intelligence that only switched on the power if the connected device is a POE device.
Never too old to learn
So as I was saying - you can just treat a passive PoE device like a passthrough in most cases.
(Although it may be helpful if you can crimp your own connectors - that way you can swap wires / pairs if required).
Or do weird things like - I pulled the power pair out of my RJ45 and hooked them to a DC jack so my passive PoE became separate DC power + data on the other side of the connection.
So I am looking for a backup for my cctv system during Loadshedding. Currently the PSU uses a normal 3pin connector and the DVR a 2 pin.
Geewiz recommended this unit:
www.geewiz.co.za
Thoughts..?
Geewiz recommended this unit:
64000mAh AC Inverter Laptop Power Bank 5V 9V 12V 3A External Battery Pack (236.80Wh)
LED Display Capacity: 64000mAh Modified Sinewave 2x USB 3.0 Quick Charge AC Output: 220V/ 50HZ/ 130W Built-in overcharge,over-discharge, over current protection, short circuit protection, high-temperature protection to protect your devices from damage.
www.geewiz.co.za
Thoughts..?