Router Battery Backup

So I got the Ratel 430m this morning.

How do you charge it properly, it was on 75% and then just plugged it into the power socket to charge left on. Probably on for an hour or so and still not 100%.

Should I rather charge it being in the off position.

We off at 10 tonight so trying it our later.
 
PhireSide said:
Your setup was very similar to mine - I just had an Edgerouter and B315 instead of the Tik that you have along with the Unifi AP and also a Rpi 3B+
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Much appreciated (do you have pictures for me?)
 
KOPITE said:
So I got the Ratel 430m this morning.

How do you charge it properly, it was on 75% and then just plugged it into the power socket to charge left on. Probably on for an hour or so and still not 100%.

Should I rather charge it being in the off position.

We off at 10 tonight so trying it our later.
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I'd imagine you just plug it in?

Do you mind posting some pictures of the inputs and outputs?

I'm tempted to just buy a 20 000mah battery bank it's half the price of Ratel and double the capacity (but need a way to automatically switch).
 
Thor said:
Much appreciated (do you have pictures for me?)
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I sold it on, but I believe Sinetech Store does have datasheets with the product dimensions and layout of the ports etc.
 
PhireSide said:
I sold it on, but I believe Sinetech Store does have datasheets with the product dimensions and layout of the ports etc.
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I checked could not get much info on the ports.

I might have checked like the hond se gat so will go recheck.
 
Thor said:
I'm tempted to just buy a 20 000mah battery bank it's half the price of Ratel and double the capacity (but need a way to automatically switch).
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Ran my Wyze cameras on a Romoss Sense 6 the other day as a test. Charger > Power bank > Wyze. Works. No switching needed.
 
Thor said:
I'm tempted to just buy a 20 000mah battery bank it's half the price of Ratel and double the capacity (but need a way to automatically switch).
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Not to discourage you on this idea but I recently tried something similar and had endless issues as a 5V powerbank will not deliver 5V on the best of days. I measured the Adata one I bought at 4.6ish volts, which was enough to cause my Rpi to randomly reboot. Using the 1A or 2.1A ports didn't make any difference at all.

As a result, the Pi was locked at 600mhz clockspeed and response times on simple stuff like doing apt get or loading the PiHole web interface was quite slow. This was on a headless Pi. I'd imagine one with a GUI to be a lot worse.

It was a nice experiment and a good idea in theory, but it didn't work in practice. I documented my findings in the Raspberry Pi Projects thread, you'll find some detailed info there.
 
PhireSide said:
Not to discourage you on this idea but I recently tried something similar and had endless issues as a 5V powerbank will not deliver 5V on the best of days. I measured the Adata one I bought at 4.6ish volts, which was enough to cause my Rpi to randomly reboot. Using the 1A or 2.1A ports didn't make any difference at all.

As a result, the Pi was locked at 600mhz clockspeed and response times on simple stuff like doing apt get or loading the PiHole web interface was quite slow. This was on a headless Pi. I'd imagine one with a GUI to be a lot worse.

It was a nice experiment and a good idea in theory, but it didn't work in practice. I documented my findings in the Raspberry Pi Projects thread, you'll find some detailed info there.
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Good point on the voltage
 
Yeah Tor as much as I really like the idea of using the most efficient means to do something, sometimes the simplicity can really be a driving force in these choices.

If I didn't spend all my money on powerbanks and supplies and cables and things then I could have maybe had enough money for another 100Ah battery by now, but then again others have had much better luck than I did. It's easy to do if you have a few simple devices all needing one voltage but when you start needing fancier stuff like PoE, 5V for the Pi, 9V for one device, 12V for another then it can get a bit convoluted and hard to keep track of.
 
ld13 said:
Ran my Wyze cameras on a Romoss Sense 6 the other day as a test. Charger > Power bank > Wyze. Works. No switching needed.
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Hmm maybe I should try this also, but not sure if this will shorten the lifespan of the batteries.

I do have cheap adata powerbanks could I throw away :P
 
PhireSide said:
Yeah Tor as much as I really like the idea of using the most efficient means to do something, sometimes the simplicity can really be a driving force in these choices.

If I didn't spend all my money on powerbanks and supplies and cables and things then I could have maybe had enough money for another 100Ah battery by now, but then again others have had much better luck than I did. It's easy to do if you have a few simple devices all needing one voltage but when you start needing fancier stuff like PoE, 5V for the Pi, 9V for one device, 12V for another then it can get a bit convoluted and hard to keep track of.
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Got it

So the approach now is:
Buy 1 x 105ah battery (with the aim to buy more)
Buy a decent invertor that can handle more batteries (So Victron maybe?)
Investigate a battery grid-tied solution for the flat (long term)
 
bar1 said:
What can an inverters like this run?
I assume my cpe, router, and probably enough time to properly shutdown my server.

anything more?or not really?
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Depends on amount batteries :P

100ah battery, runs tv, router and some lights 2-3 hours with keeping the battery above 50%.
 
bar1 said:
What can an inverters like this run?
I assume my cpe, router, and probably enough time to properly shutdown my server.

anything more?or not really?
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The invertor is one part, it's the batteries - that invertor is up to 720watts - you will need a metric ton of batteries to deliver 720 watts for 2 hours.
 
Thor said:
The invertor is one part, it's the batteries - that invertor is up to 720watts - you will need a metric ton of batteries to deliver 720 watts for 2 hours.
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ok so if i buy the above invertor i need to buy batteries as well?
 
Gtx Gaming said:
Hmm maybe I should try this also, but not sure if this will shorten the lifespan of the batteries.
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In the back of my head I recon that the regular load-shedding will help that the power bank actually gets used and help the batteries to last longer. That, and the Sense 6 has overcharge protection, so I am not too worried.
 
bar1 said:
ok so if i buy the above invertor i need to buy batteries as well?
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Indeed.

Invertor takes the 12volt input from the batteries and makes that 220volt so your electronics work
 
I see sinetech has a new powerhex inverter package. It seems to be the same idea as the Mecer / Ellies trollies, except pure sine. And pricey - R15 400 - for a 105Ah solution.
 
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