Router Battery Backup

ld13 said:
Nono, it is a ups, for your (wifi) router that has multiple outputs, so can indeed power other devices too.
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ug.... that is some terrible naming right there.

Is this device any good.

I'm looking on takalot now and I see a range of what looks like the same device with the same brand but different pricing... what are the differences ?

like how is this one different ? EDIT OK I see the w/h is different but is that all ?

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and this :

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Nerfherder said:
ug.... that is some terrible naming right there.

Is this device any good.

I'm looking on takalot now and I see a range of what looks like the same device with the same brand but different pricing... what are the differences ?

like how is this one different ? EDIT OK I see the w/h is different but is that all ?

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and this :

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Rather check out GeeWiz. They have the exact same stuff (just not branded as Vizia) for significantly less.

GeeWiz mini UPSes
 
Nerfherder said:
ug.... that is some terrible naming right there.

Is this device any good.

I'm looking on takalot now and I see a range of what looks like the same device with the same brand but different pricing... what are the differences ?

like how is this one different ? EDIT OK I see the w/h is different but is that all ?

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and this :

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The Difference between the pic I was showing in my clip and the ones that you are showing is the Size of the batteries but also the fact that theses are one Output ports with Spliter cables - and if your CPE and Router is different voltage then you have a problem, e.g like in my case

I have a CPE that is 12V and a Router that is 5V so having a WIFI Router UPS with 2 out more outputs I can plug the 5V in one output socket and the 12V in a different one instead of getting 2 different devices. Like in the First Image (Black Box) you showing compared to the 2nd image (Vizia White Box).

Sorry I speak on Correction the First Image you sent is also a Single Output Unit that uses a Splitter cable - as I see it has an In (input) and an out (output)
 
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Need a UPS so that the server can shut down properly, but also need to power WIFI Router during load shedding.

Can get a UPS for PC and then a mini UPS for the Router, but is there something that can do both?
 
dualmeister said:
Need a UPS so that the server can shut down properly, but also need to power WIFI Router during load shedding.

Can get a UPS for PC and then a mini UPS for the Router, but is there something that can do both?
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A normal UPS can do both and will work fine - it is just inefficient to run the router(s) on it, that is all. But by all means, go for it, especially if your PC and router is next to each other. Even better if the PC is connected with the UPS and can power itself down when a power failure occurs. But have never really used that function in any of my setups. At work the UPS simply carries the PCs while we wait for the generator, and at home, I am always there and turn off the PC before or when loadshedding kicks in.

Personally I prefer the split setup, as the mini ups was set and forget. I have not touched mine since I installed it last year. With my UPS setup, I need to cuddle and actively manage it etc. as I hacked some extra batteries into it so that it will last throughout a loadshedding event. So checking that I do not overload it (the wife once inadvertently plugged in the iron!), checking the battery levels (you also need to do this with a non-hacked UPS, as drawing down the batteries below 50% will degrade your batteries within months), checking the heat output, cooling it etc is an active mission. Sure, a 2000VA UPS will probably work in your case, but it all depends on your server. If it aint a beast that will chow your whole battery capacity while it is shutting down, then by all means, get one like that, to power the whole setup.

Nerfherder said:
I'm looking on takalot now and I see a range of what looks like the same device with the same brand but different pricing... what are the differences ?
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Sorry if I cannot recall/have missed it, but what are you trying to power, and for how long? A 8800mah gizzu will withstand a 4 hour loadshedding without even trying.
 
dualmeister said:
Need a UPS so that the server can shut down properly, but also need to power WIFI Router during load shedding.

Can get a UPS for PC and then a mini UPS for the Router, but is there something that can do both?
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a standard UPS can do both (many of us use this for routers) but exactly as @ld13 said its inefficient DC to AC and then back to DC - while the UPS built for routers is basically DC to DC.

also standard UPS most have an automatic shut down after 2 hours - i have found 1 or 2 that do not do this.
 
isie said:
also standard UPS most have an automatic shut down after 2 hours - i have found 1 or 2 that do not do this.
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Completely forgot about that! Good point. You will have to search for a UPS that do not shut down - and even then, I'd highly suggest additional cooling.
 
ld13 said:
A normal UPS can do both and will work fine - it is just inefficient to run the router(s) on it, that is all. But by all means, go for it, especially if your PC and router is next to each other. Even better if the PC is connected with the UPS and can power itself down when a power failure occurs. But have never really used that function in any of my setups. At work the UPS simply carries the PCs while we wait for the generator, and at home, I am always there and turn off the PC before or when loadshedding kicks in.

Personally I prefer the split setup, as the mini ups was set and forget. I have not touched mine since I installed it last year. With my UPS setup, I need to cuddle and actively manage it etc. as I hacked some extra batteries into it so that it will last throughout a loadshedding event. So checking that I do not overload it (the wife once inadvertently plugged in the iron!), checking the battery levels (you also need to do this with a non-hacked UPS, as drawing down the batteries below 50% will degrade your batteries within months), checking the heat output, cooling it etc is an active mission. Sure, a 2000VA UPS will probably work in your case, but it all depends on your server. If it aint a beast that will chow your whole battery capacity while it is shutting down, then by all means, get one like that, to power the whole setup.



Sorry if I cannot recall/have missed it, but what are you trying to power, and for how long? A 8800mah gizzu will withstand a 4 hour loadshedding without even trying.
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You will have to rip the beeper out for your sanity.
 
dualmeister said:
My router has a 19V - 3,42A power adapter :cautious:
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Toss the router! I joke, I joke, I kid, I kid

Huawei/Asus beast of a router setup, or what do you have there that needs all those volts?

As mentioned, a DC to DC boost converter can work, just be weary when you feed it directly with a 12v battery, as the DC-DC boosters I have worked with do not have Avr on the output side of the circuit, so as your input changes (battery voltage lowers) the output also drops.
 
abzob said:
Thanks. Just bought one. Will test it out and revert.
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I ended up getting it as well. Only two reviews but were both positive.

On paper it looks to meet all my requirements.
Looks like there will be plenty of opportunity for me to review over the next few weeks.
 
Is this good enough to power my router and ONT?

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znubair said:
Is this good enough to power my router and ONT?

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yup - but check the voltage of your router and ont are both 12v - and remember its 5 hours on 1 device so 2.5 hours if you connect both
 
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12 Volt DC to DC converter will help. You can also look for any buck converters.

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Eish so my ONT is 12V and router is 19V. So I will need to get a 12V UPS and then hack one of the lines from 12 to 19V. But if UPS is rated at 5 hours for 12V and one of the lines is now 19V it probably won't last for 2.5 hours anymore?
 
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