That's how you get the magic blue smoke
If it was in series, then yes, but the connectors are parallel.
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That's how you get the magic blue smoke
If it was in series, then yes, but the connectors are parallel.
Thanks all, so tested each thing...
Basically it doesn't seem like the UPS like to cold start the ONT from battery only - UPS wants to be connected to power first.
If I power UPS first and then connect ONT/router it all works fine. Disconnect power from UPS and still all good.
But if I plug ONT in to unpowered (battery only) UPS it doesn't like it - UPS seems to be confused.
Router works fine, no water what.
I'll still return the unit as my plan was to only use the UPS when required and not have it constantly powered.
Basically it doesn't seem like the UPS like to cold start the ONT from battery only - UPS wants to be connected to power first.
If I power UPS first and then connect ONT/router it all works fine. Disconnect power from UPS and still all good.
But if I plug ONT in to unpowered (battery only) UPS it doesn't like it - UPS seems to be confused.
Router works fine, no water what.
I'll still return the unit as my plan was to only use the UPS when required and not have it constantly powered.
wingnut771
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If you can get it powered up then I don't see the issue. Once everything is on it should stay on. I think using AC provides a little more power than battery only, so when devices initially turn on they use more power then they settle down using a lot less. The fact you can then remove the AC to the UPS and everything stays on tells me everything will be ok during a power outage.
The whole idea of these UPS's is to have them constantly connected.
killerbyte
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SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
It’s designed to always be in line and replace the power supply.
Just leave it alone and go on with your life.
No reason not to leave it powered.
Why abuse the batteries for no reason, seems like a waste.
If we were on Stage 3/4 loadshedding, then I agree - leave the device plugged in.
I'd rather keep the UPS ready in case of a power outage.
I'll probably swap the device for the UltraLan item someone linked - seems like a more powerful device and go from there.
wingnut771
Honorary Master
It doesn’t use the batteries when there is power.
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
You aren’t abusing anything.
They are Lithium batteries.
In fact letting them discharge is abusing them and will likely make them swell and then no UPS for you.
killerbyte
Expert Member
I am very confused why you would unplug the UPS ever. Its designed to kick in when you lose power, to do that it needs to be plugged in and used as the default power source for your ONT & router 24/7. This is just like you would use any UPS.
Unfortunately no POENETOGY MINI UPS100+
Netogy NETOGY MINI UPS100+ Battery Bank Netogy Mini DC/UPS Powerbank (8x1800ma Li-Ion) , I/P:100~240VAC , O/P:2XUSB , 8 x DC O/P 2.5mm:19V@5A, 5X12V@5A, 1X5VDC, 9/12V@3A Selectable, Max O/P PWR:100W, Charging Time: 3~ 4Hours, 253x146x45mm Mini DC/UPS Powerbank Overview The NETOGY UPS100 Plus is...
In case you haven't seen it... R950
Also check out the extra cable and adapters we included.
Internally its the same as another brand of UPS, but its almost R700 cheaper.
In case Communica runs out of stock you can also get it for R999 from Web Africa or for R1,199 from Takealot
AfricanTech
Honorary Master
Eh! Surely the whole idea behind a UPS is so that you don't lose power to your device when the mains goes down?
AfricanTech
Honorary Master
There is no waste - it's engineered to operate in 'always on' mode.
You're trying to second guess the designers of the unit.
Adeptus Mechanicus
Expert Member
Do any of these built for purpose backup devices come back on with AC after the batteries have been completely discharged?
I have a Ratel 860p which gives me about 8hrs with my setup. Plenty for load shedding, but having had a few area faults that last longer than that the Ratel must be manually powered back on when AC returns...annoying when you aren't at home to do so...
I have a Ratel 860p which gives me about 8hrs with my setup. Plenty for load shedding, but having had a few area faults that last longer than that the Ratel must be manually powered back on when AC returns...annoying when you aren't at home to do so...
wingnut771
Honorary Master
It is not charging/discharging for no reason as it sits at 100% waiting for a power failure. A cycle is 100% down to 0% and back to 100%. It is not cycling when on power. You're making life too complicated.Yep, all understood.
My understanding is lithium ion batteries have a limit on charging cycles right.
So why let it sit for 95% of it's life charging/discharging for no reason...
Just trying to min/max this thing
Speedster
Honorary Master
Clearly not
Dan C
Honorary Master
Not sure what you mean by 'manually powered back on' ?
Adeptus Mechanicus
Expert Member
Got to press the power button on the unit for 2s to get it to turn on instead of it returning to an ON state once AC is restored.
Dan C
Honorary Master
Ah ok.. I didn't know the Ratel works like that. The one I have will stay on 'ON'.
Adeptus Mechanicus
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The manual says it should:
"The Ratel will shut down automatically when it reaches low battery status; it will restart with output power when the AC power is restored"
What have you got?
Any Ratel owners with a similar experience?
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