scotty777
...doesn't know
hmmm... I've read the OP and felt like saying "WTF". Honestly, for me, I found there's a few parts to having success in your night ventures... Now you don't need to have them all, but if you do then sweet,
anyways, so what I have learned is that you never go for the most attractive girl their group, she will most certainly shoot you down (as she probably has done to 20 guys before her), rather, you find an attractive group of girls and you go for the girl (s) that are in the middle of the attractive scale in the group. this the reason why you would do this is because out of that group, the guys are mostly gonna try their luck with the hotter girls, now that leaves the other girls feeling a bit left out, and so now you have an open field to play on. Of course you shouldn't go for a girl that would get you ridiculed from your mates, but just don't try your luck with a girl that's at Jessica Alba's level, as many guys have tried before and many more will try again without much yield.
Next is a guys appearance. If you wearing dirty shoes, and crappy clothes, then your chances of getting a girl are slim at least. Wear clothes that are:
A) comfortable, nothings worse then wearing shoes, and clothes that are hot and uncomfortable, this distracts you from your primary goal, and she (the lady to be) will notice it, and think that you're quite self conscious
B)When I say wear something comfortable, I don't mean wear tennis shoes and tracksuit pants... I mean wear a nice pair of shoes (Puma, Nike, and so on, most of these are designed to look nice and be comfortable). A decent pair of Chinos or Jeans that makes you feel good in. and what ever shirt/jacket you feel you look the best in. If you feel you looking good, then you probably are, and this will bring a little self confidence.
C) this doesn't really follow the whole "looks" part, but smelling good is a must, no girl likes the smell of male musk
Now, after all that, the initial meeting...
DON'T GO UP TO A GIRL AFTER DRINKING COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL!!!
You see, although the booze may give you an edge on the anxiety, after several beers you gonna struggle to say your name, let alone woe a women, and no women wants a boozed up binging beer drinker over them. I would advise 2 drinks max if you want to woe a women, this ensures that your cognitive functions are still coherent and your anxiety levels are a little suppressed.
another pointer would be to see if any girls are looking at you. If you do see one "checking you out" (as the kids say) then look at her in the eyes, don't look away, look confidently, and you've pretty much have a massive head start...
Now it's the talking period, find something that you can talk about, maybe use a pick up line, but if you not funny, then don't try to be funny... Nothing works worse then a guy laughing at his own jokes, while only receiving deathly stares. Be polite, saying lines like "F**k me if I'm wrong, but is your name Beatrex" or "I've loving the clothes you wearing, but they would look better as a crumpled pile on the side on my bed". Rather, try be honest, be sincere and just look out for signs of potential, such as the biting of her lip. Of course you can't be a boring fish in this conversation, and don't talk about your cars sound system, or the processor of your computer(this maybe surprising, but people do actually expect this to work), rather mention music, art, what ever she seems interested in...
If she asks you to dance, you dance. If you can dance, keep it simple. If you can 2 step, rather not, just keep it simple, there's a time and place to show off, but you don't wanna dance better then she can.
Ok, so the main point I'm trying to make is that perhaps the OP'er just is going to the wrong places... I know with my mates and I, we really just push each other into it... the guy that doesn't get a girl gets punished sort of thing...
I've realized that unless you Brad Pitt, or you one hell of a rich guy, sitting in the corner of a club or what ever doesn't get you girls, and most certainly doesn't get you laid... rather, the guy who isn't afraid of rejection, who is what you see and the guy that throws himself into the group gets the girl. lol.
anyways, so what I have learned is that you never go for the most attractive girl their group, she will most certainly shoot you down (as she probably has done to 20 guys before her), rather, you find an attractive group of girls and you go for the girl (s) that are in the middle of the attractive scale in the group. this the reason why you would do this is because out of that group, the guys are mostly gonna try their luck with the hotter girls, now that leaves the other girls feeling a bit left out, and so now you have an open field to play on. Of course you shouldn't go for a girl that would get you ridiculed from your mates, but just don't try your luck with a girl that's at Jessica Alba's level, as many guys have tried before and many more will try again without much yield.
Next is a guys appearance. If you wearing dirty shoes, and crappy clothes, then your chances of getting a girl are slim at least. Wear clothes that are:
A) comfortable, nothings worse then wearing shoes, and clothes that are hot and uncomfortable, this distracts you from your primary goal, and she (the lady to be) will notice it, and think that you're quite self conscious
B)When I say wear something comfortable, I don't mean wear tennis shoes and tracksuit pants... I mean wear a nice pair of shoes (Puma, Nike, and so on, most of these are designed to look nice and be comfortable). A decent pair of Chinos or Jeans that makes you feel good in. and what ever shirt/jacket you feel you look the best in. If you feel you looking good, then you probably are, and this will bring a little self confidence.
C) this doesn't really follow the whole "looks" part, but smelling good is a must, no girl likes the smell of male musk
Now, after all that, the initial meeting...
DON'T GO UP TO A GIRL AFTER DRINKING COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL!!!
You see, although the booze may give you an edge on the anxiety, after several beers you gonna struggle to say your name, let alone woe a women, and no women wants a boozed up binging beer drinker over them. I would advise 2 drinks max if you want to woe a women, this ensures that your cognitive functions are still coherent and your anxiety levels are a little suppressed.
another pointer would be to see if any girls are looking at you. If you do see one "checking you out" (as the kids say) then look at her in the eyes, don't look away, look confidently, and you've pretty much have a massive head start...
Now it's the talking period, find something that you can talk about, maybe use a pick up line, but if you not funny, then don't try to be funny... Nothing works worse then a guy laughing at his own jokes, while only receiving deathly stares. Be polite, saying lines like "F**k me if I'm wrong, but is your name Beatrex" or "I've loving the clothes you wearing, but they would look better as a crumpled pile on the side on my bed". Rather, try be honest, be sincere and just look out for signs of potential, such as the biting of her lip. Of course you can't be a boring fish in this conversation, and don't talk about your cars sound system, or the processor of your computer(this maybe surprising, but people do actually expect this to work), rather mention music, art, what ever she seems interested in...
If she asks you to dance, you dance. If you can dance, keep it simple. If you can 2 step, rather not, just keep it simple, there's a time and place to show off, but you don't wanna dance better then she can.
Ok, so the main point I'm trying to make is that perhaps the OP'er just is going to the wrong places... I know with my mates and I, we really just push each other into it... the guy that doesn't get a girl gets punished sort of thing...
I've realized that unless you Brad Pitt, or you one hell of a rich guy, sitting in the corner of a club or what ever doesn't get you girls, and most certainly doesn't get you laid... rather, the guy who isn't afraid of rejection, who is what you see and the guy that throws himself into the group gets the girl. lol.
as crazy as this sounds females want equality but still expect men to buy their drinks 
