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Cape Council booted off Gateway Project
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pope24
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I would think that the city would be ecstatic about this, because it sounded like a real mess up
This may be so.
But I am not sure how they are going to complete projects without City Council's input on the matter. Water, Electricity, Roads, Stormwater etc.
Surely the Provincial Authorities cannot just overnight become another Council.
As stated in several articles the Project was politically motivated and it is clear to me that Province is keen to continue pumping our money at this project, no matter what the cost.
Province may not be collecting Rates, but they certainly get funds from National Government and it is all the same thing in the end, the tax payers money.
There are gross irregularities with the Gateway Project.
Units that should be costing R70 end up costing R150K.
According to the previous Mayor, by the end of 2006 everyone would have a house.
With 266 000 families still on the waiting list it is obvious that this target was so way off, that I am of the opinion that the previous Mayor Mama-India hadn't a clue what she was doing.
No surprise here, but still nevertheless a lot of our money has been spent on projects that are not showing returns.
Where is the Capacity Building that the ANC likes to quote?
It is all on paperwork, but in practice there is no visible signs that things are happening or changing?
But I am not sure how they are going to complete projects without City Council's input on the matter. Water, Electricity, Roads, Stormwater etc.
Surely the Provincial Authorities cannot just overnight become another Council.
As stated in several articles the Project was politically motivated and it is clear to me that Province is keen to continue pumping our money at this project, no matter what the cost.
Province may not be collecting Rates, but they certainly get funds from National Government and it is all the same thing in the end, the tax payers money.
There are gross irregularities with the Gateway Project.
Units that should be costing R70 end up costing R150K.
According to the previous Mayor, by the end of 2006 everyone would have a house.
With 266 000 families still on the waiting list it is obvious that this target was so way off, that I am of the opinion that the previous Mayor Mama-India hadn't a clue what she was doing.
No surprise here, but still nevertheless a lot of our money has been spent on projects that are not showing returns.
Where is the Capacity Building that the ANC likes to quote?
It is all on paperwork, but in practice there is no visible signs that things are happening or changing?
Housing project changes a political gimmick: Zille
Housing project changes a political gimmick: Zille
Helen Zille, says the drastic changes done to the N2 Gateway housing project are a political gimmick........
Housing project changes a political gimmick: Zille
Helen Zille, says the drastic changes done to the N2 Gateway housing project are a political gimmick........
Whilst this is a good thing, it would have been good to have been associated with the project if it had worked (The downside being that they would also be associated with it if it had failed, which it looks like it will)
Let's put this into perspective. There are two main reasons why the ANC transferred control from local to provincial and national government:
(1) To cover up all its shenanigans related to bad governance. The degree of corruption and cronyism in the N2 housing projects is by all accounts astounding.
(2) There is actually a chance that the DA will make the N2 housing project work. If that were the case, how would it look for the ANC who claim to champion the previously disadvantaged? The ANC really want to take credit for the housing project.
I find it ironic that control has been passed to the provincial government (PGWC). From what I have heard, the PGWC is even less competent than the Cape Town Municipality. Apart from that, provincial government really has no role to play in South Africa (and I have heard rumours that it is going to cease to exist). After all, why have it, if every square metre of SA is covered by municipalities? What possible role does it serve? None at all.
Conclusion: Yet again, the ANC are letting politics get in the way of efficient and effective service delivery.
(1) To cover up all its shenanigans related to bad governance. The degree of corruption and cronyism in the N2 housing projects is by all accounts astounding.
(2) There is actually a chance that the DA will make the N2 housing project work. If that were the case, how would it look for the ANC who claim to champion the previously disadvantaged? The ANC really want to take credit for the housing project.
I find it ironic that control has been passed to the provincial government (PGWC). From what I have heard, the PGWC is even less competent than the Cape Town Municipality. Apart from that, provincial government really has no role to play in South Africa (and I have heard rumours that it is going to cease to exist). After all, why have it, if every square metre of SA is covered by municipalities? What possible role does it serve? None at all.
Conclusion: Yet again, the ANC are letting politics get in the way of efficient and effective service delivery.
Related Article: Zille not a mayor of the people
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/&articleid=274381
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/&articleid=274381
Good Post Tassidar.
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Provincial Government and here in the Western Cape there is also a Regional Government?
Anyway. I have noticed that in several instances where it came to Development Planning where clearly the Ratepayers, Residents and also the Local Authority is against a particular Development and have gone through the usual long winded process and all parties have voted against it, the Developer Appeals through the Local Authority and the Development is given the green light by the Provincial Authorities.
The net result is that the Resident's wishes are simply sidelined in favour of The Developer, often to the detriment of the community.
One wonders why we needed their input for anyway?
/On Topic.
I must certainly agree that the ANC Provincial Government is trying to prove that they can finish the N2 Gateway.
So let them do it.
At least now they have the necessary motivation.
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Provincial Government and here in the Western Cape there is also a Regional Government?
Anyway. I have noticed that in several instances where it came to Development Planning where clearly the Ratepayers, Residents and also the Local Authority is against a particular Development and have gone through the usual long winded process and all parties have voted against it, the Developer Appeals through the Local Authority and the Development is given the green light by the Provincial Authorities.
The net result is that the Resident's wishes are simply sidelined in favour of The Developer, often to the detriment of the community.
One wonders why we needed their input for anyway?
/On Topic.
I must certainly agree that the ANC Provincial Government is trying to prove that they can finish the N2 Gateway.
So let them do it.
At least now they have the necessary motivation.
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That is a pack of lies.Tassidar said:
Zille is anything but what they claim.
The ANC are bordering on libel.
Very sad day indeed for the ANC when they resort to Gutter Politics.
TonyA
Expert Member
Tassidar, While I share your concerns and sentiments about Prov Govt, do you really believe that Prov Govt would be cancelled? All those cronies without Film Star salaries, car allowances body guards etc! 
Even CTN city council is over packed 210 councillors, a city like Auckland only has some 30, the work is done by permanent staff not politicians!
Even CTN city council is over packed 210 councillors, a city like Auckland only has some 30, the work is done by permanent staff not politicians!
Hi TonyA,
No, in effect, I think that the ANC will stall any efforts to cancel provincial government while the DA is in power in Cape Town. Provincial government is too powerful a tool for the ANC to give up at the moment.
However, it is useful to remember that CT local government is bigger than the PGWC.
No, in effect, I think that the ANC will stall any efforts to cancel provincial government while the DA is in power in Cape Town. Provincial government is too powerful a tool for the ANC to give up at the moment.
However, it is useful to remember that CT local government is bigger than the PGWC.
Without even reading the article I agree she's not a mayor of the people, she has scrapped a BEE compliance requirement for tenders which is sad given the economic disparities that still exist in that city. No wonder the ANC is wrestling to get control of the city back because with Zille in charge it will never shed its "racist city" tag seemingly.Tassidar said:
@Angelo
For you information, 62% of the Residents of Cape Town did not vote for the ANC.
The ANC needs to get to grips with this fact.
After 3 years of Mama_India Imperfekto's ANC Led Council behind closed doors it is refreshing to breath the South Easter again.
May I ask more or less which province you live in?
For you information, 62% of the Residents of Cape Town did not vote for the ANC.
The ANC needs to get to grips with this fact.
After 3 years of Mama_India Imperfekto's ANC Led Council behind closed doors it is refreshing to breath the South Easter again.
May I ask more or less which province you live in?
Angelo said:
Angelo, what the ANC instituted was UNCONSTITUTIONAL; it has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. Any non-compliance with the law must be rectified. (Source: http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?from=rss_Cape Times&fArticleId=3269630). It is really quite simple.
Secondly, the ANC has been trying to wrest control since long before that. Therefore your statement cannot be true.
Trying to implement a system that stamps out corruption, nepotism, cronyism etc... and deliver services that need to be delivered, cannot be called racist. The ANC did its utmost best to run this city into the ground, as has been witnessed in numerous press articles over the last couple of weeks (if you do not believe me, do the research; you will find lots of examples). I found it an insult to all citizens of Cape Town of all colour, that the ANC allowed the same incompetent officials stand for reelection again in March. Please note: I would say the same thing no matter who the mayor and who the party.
This project has been stalled for years thanks to the non-delivery of the anc. Now Zille wants to deliver and ANC takes it away - I mean - what interest does the anc have in its people??! They guarantee non-delivery and when someone tries to fix it they complain - what is their political agenda (besides none and non-delivery?)
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Toxin
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Angelo said:
Please supply links (online news or otherwise) where the "racist city" tag has been used. I've haven't heard/read of that one yet.
Nom Chompsky
High Tory
Maybe because his contract was illegal. Duh!
Tell me when did the ANC -ever- get into power in CT because of the will of the people? 0 times. So the ANC were never really representing anyone actually.
@ Angelo: 30% is an awful lot to give to BEE - I'd give it max 5% simply because I'd weigh experience and skills development much more highly. Do you really want unqualified companies to be running in CT in 2010?