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What does this at hop 12 mean. Youtube and browsing very slow.

Tracing route to www.openweb.co.za
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 196-210-157-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.21
3 24 ms 26 ms 29 ms cdsl2-rba-vl2563.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.213]
4 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms cdsl2-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.9]
5 28 ms 22 ms 23 ms 168.209.1.140
6 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms ar1-rba-gi1-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.171]
7 150 ms 184 ms 61 ms mi-za-rba-gsrpe1-gi2-0-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.86.122]
8 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 197.96.148.74
9 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms CORE.GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.TO.GP-MR-VOD-MEE-1.DFA.P2P.10G.za.africainx.net [41.84.12.151]
10 25 ms 25 ms 29 ms 41-66-132-242-f2.HET001-CPE-1-to-GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.africainx.net [41.66.132.242]
11 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193.1]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 29 ms 27 ms 34 ms 41.203.24.42
14 28 ms 28 ms 23 ms mail.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]
 
What does this at hop 12 mean. Youtube and browsing very slow.

Tracing route to www.openweb.co.za
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 196-210-157-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.21
3 24 ms 26 ms 29 ms cdsl2-rba-vl2563.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.213]
4 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms cdsl2-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.9]
5 28 ms 22 ms 23 ms 168.209.1.140
6 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms ar1-rba-gi1-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.171]
7 150 ms 184 ms 61 ms mi-za-rba-gsrpe1-gi2-0-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.86.122]
8 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 197.96.148.74
9 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms CORE.GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.TO.GP-MR-VOD-MEE-1.DFA.P2P.10G.za.africainx.net [41.84.12.151]
10 25 ms 25 ms 29 ms 41-66-132-242-f2.HET001-CPE-1-to-GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.africainx.net [41.66.132.242]
11 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193.1]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 29 ms 27 ms 34 ms 41.203.24.42
14 28 ms 28 ms 23 ms mail.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]

Nothing really, shouldn't be concerned, maybe a firewall or something, point is it gets there in the end.

You should be more worried with hop 7.
 
Hey Friends,

We will be unshaping the network tonight for a weekend of download fun.

Accounts will be unshaped as follows:

Gold: 18:00
Silver and Gamers: 19:30
Everyday: 20:45
Titan: 22:00

Shaping will only be applied again on Monday at 7am.

Happy downloading!
 
Hey Friends,

We will be unshaping the network tonight for a weekend of download fun.

Accounts will be unshaped as follows:

Gold: 18:00
Silver and Gamers: 19:30
Everyday: 20:45
Titan: 22:00

Shaping will only be applied again on Monday at 7am.

Happy downloading!

Thanks.

My Internet connection is okay now but only video streaming sites are impossible to watch :( Youtube's dead.
 
Try using a different router if you haven't already.

If you have, and the problem persists, kindly call Telkom on 10210 and log an official fault.

Thanks.

My Internet connection is okay now but only video streaming sites are impossible to watch :( Youtube's dead.
 
Try using a different router if you haven't already.

If you have, and the problem persists, kindly call Telkom on 10210 and log an official fault.

Mr. Beep, I did :) Also I asked TelkomZA @ Twitter to send someone to check my port on the DSLAM.

Sir, can you decipher what this means? :)

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\*****>tracert www.youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube-ui.l.google.com [74.125.233.72]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.10.1]
2 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms 196-210-155-129.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.15
5.129]
3 44 ms * 43 ms vlan2473.cdsl2-ctn.isdsl.net [196.38.72.193]
4 45 ms 45 ms 44 ms 196.35.115.136
5 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms 168.209.2.13
6 66 ms 65 ms 65 ms 168.209.100.213
7 * 65 ms 64 ms 196.26.0.130
8 65 ms 74 ms 74 ms 74.125.49.66
9 66 ms 67 ms 66 ms 64.233.174.57
10 66 ms * 66 ms jnb01s02-in-f8.1e100.net [74.125.233.72]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>

Thanks.
 
OK... can someone plz advise on another question...? if I wanted to view streaming content on HULU or NETFLIX, what would be better suited? 2mb gold, or 4mb titan? or none?
 
can you try ping the 2nd hop, eg:

ping 196.210.15.5 -t

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\*****>ping 196.210.15.5

Pinging 196.210.15.5 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.

Ping statistics for 196.210.15.5:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

C:\Users\******>

Is it bad? :(
 
Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\*****>ping 196.210.15.5

Pinging 196.210.15.5 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.
Reply from 196.38.72.214: TTL expired in transit.

Ping statistics for 196.210.15.5:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

C:\Users\******>

Is it bad? :(

No, do another tracert, I think the ip will be different (2nd hop)

edit: don't forget the -t
 
No, do another tracert, I think the ip will be different (2nd hop)

edit: don't forget the -t

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\*****>tracert www.openweb.co.za

Tracing route to www.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  dsldevice.lan [192.168.10.1]
[B]  2    14 ms    15 ms    14 ms  196-210-155-129.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.15
5.129][/B]
  3    43 ms    43 ms    43 ms  vlan2473.cdsl2-ctn.isdsl.net [196.38.72.193]
  4    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  196.35.115.136
  5    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  168.209.6.13
  6    45 ms    45 ms    45 ms  css1-ctn-gi0-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.6.10]
  7    43 ms    46 ms    44 ms  196.36.84.154
  8    66 ms    65 ms    66 ms  CORE.GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.TO.GP-MR-VOD-MEE-1.DFA.P2P.
10G.za.africainx.net [41.84.12.151]
  9    67 ms    67 ms    66 ms  41-66-132-242-f2.HET001-CPE-1-to-GP-CN-HET-MEE-1
.africainx.net [41.66.132.242]
 10    68 ms    68 ms    67 ms  core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193
.1]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    68 ms    70 ms    69 ms  41.203.24.42
 13    66 ms    66 ms    66 ms  mail.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]

Trace complete.

Code:
[B]C:\Users\*****>ping 196.210.155.129 -t[/B]

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Moncy>ping 196.210.155.129 -t

Pinging 196.210.155.129 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.210.155.129: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=254
Reply from 196.210.155.129: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=254
Reply from 196.210.155.129: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=254
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and it keeps going on...
 
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Now my OW account is performing well :D No more slow speed issues. I can watch a 720p youtube video smoothly :p Thanks.
 
Hi MrR,

This test has allowed us to gather very important data.

The ultimate conclusion is that South Africans are still very bandwidth hungry, and that it is not possible to upgrade accounts without either increasing the contention ratio (thereby decreasing the quality of the connection) or charging for the upgrade.

This will be a reality until Telkom stops milking ISP's and ultimately the consumer with their ridiculous IPC costs.

You guys sure it wasn't school kids taking advantage of the extra speed? Would you guys consider another test phase, maybe the first week of March or so?
It's like giving a bergie a bottle of Old Brown and then taking it away when he's only half way ;)
 
im using networx speed meter. its 100% accurate not 1% like speedtest.

i can see my average speed per hour, day, week or month for any given hour.

suggesting other ppl download and use it...
 
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