Router Battery Backup

[killerbyte]

is the netogy one better than the gizzu ?

The Gizzu has a 60W max output, with 8x2200mAh batteries. My personal Ratel 860P (same as the Gizzu) has done about 6-7 hours on a charge.
The Netogy has a 100W max output, with 8x 1800mAh batteries. In testing we have gotten 5.5 hours out of the Netogy.

 

[Katelknaap]

just my fibre routers

I had a Ellies Mini Cube that powered my ONT box and fibre router without issue during loadsheddings. 1 was 9V and the other 12V. It's big advantage is that it comes with all kinds of connectors and all the wires you need. No trying to source extra connectors. Simple, plug and play.

My one packed up a while ago and Ellies replaced it under it's three year warrantee without issues. I'll probably sell the replacement one I got soon (still sealed in box). Don't need it anymore as I had a proper backup power system installed recently.

 

[SubtleBeast]

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It's been out of stock for a couple of weeks though.

 

[SubtleBeast]

Found some interesting products last night while searching for a replacement UPS battery.

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[NeonNinja]

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How would I charge my laptop with this?

 

[wingnut771]

How would I charge my laptop with this?

You can't. This is for 12V routers and cell phones.

 

[dualmeister]

is the netogy one better than the gizzu ?

Gizzu does not support 19V output.

 

[Dylan_G]

How would I charge my laptop with this?

Speaking of charging laptops... A friend of mine showed me this: https://www.incredible.co.za/vizia-laptop-power-bank-150w for R3299 from Incredible

• AC Power Bank with 150W output
• High quality lithium ion batteries
• Built in AC inverter 220V
• 6-8 hours backup power for laptop
• 40 000mAh battery
• Outputs: 220V AC, DC 12V, USB, USB-C
• Car jump start: 12V/300A
• 1 Year Warranty

 

[L-Dog]

Speaking of charging laptops... A friend of mine showed me this: https://www.incredible.co.za/vizia-laptop-power-bank-150w for R3299 from Incredible

An alternative option https://www.onedayonly.co.za/products/72000mah-extra-large-capacity-mobile-power-station-4-20220628 although not sure how you would use a 3 point plug

 

[SubtleBeast]

An alternative option https://www.onedayonly.co.za/products/72000mah-extra-large-capacity-mobile-power-station-4-20220628 although not sure how you would use a 3 point plug

The USB-C PD is a killer function imo.
No 9V port, but can be easily fixed with a USB-DC cable.
Three-prong is on the back of device.
This pic is from official site:
SA version would surely have the local three-prong?

 

[killerbyte]

Isn't there an inherent power loss when converting DC (battery) to AC?

 

[Dylan_G]

The USB-C PD is a killer function imo.

Only 60W though, which is a major letdown.

Between my and SO's 4 laptops... they need at least 65W to not complain. 100W/130W to be happy.

 

[SubtleBeast]

Only 60W though, which is a major letdown.

Between my and SO's 4 laptops... they need at least 65W to not complain. 100W/130W to be happy.

Yeah I guess you'd need something beefier:

Backup power systems to get through Stage 6 load-shedding

Stage 6 power cuts can increase the length of load-shedding bouts, meaning small UPSes won’t cut it anymore.

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[L-Dog]

The USB-C PD is a killer function imo.
No 9V port, but can be easily fixed with a USB-DC cable.
Three-prong is on the back of device.
This pic is from official site:
View attachment 1337412SA version would surely have the local three-prong?

Yeah not sure from the photos it looks like a two prong.

• Capacity: 12.8V/230.4Wh(Max.) - So TV should be good to go for 2-3 hours (Have a ups for my wifi so can at least stream TV in the dark)

 

[I.am.Sam]

Depends on what you're trying to power.

Also, if you're saying you need to power more than one device (router+ONT), it might not be up to the task due to the low output current I mentioned before.

Check how many Amps your devices draw (output current which is written on the power adapter).

Then check how long you can power those devices relative to the battery size in the UPS using this calculator: https://www.digikey.com/en/resources/conversion-calculators/conversion-calculator-battery-life

For example:

I have a 12V 1A router and 12V 0.5A ONT. Total consumption is 1.5A at 12V. If I pick a device with a 8800mAh battery, it will take 5 hours 52 minutes before it dies:

View attachment 1337098

mine is 12v 1a and 12v 1.5a ..so i see it lowers the hours and life

 

[Viva]

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It uses 18650 cells and can be replaced no BMS installed on the pack itself everything is on the main board. So you just need 18650 cells. It has a 4s2p pack. You can even add more cells to give you longer runtime there is enough space inside

I'd like to get ready for when the batteries of my UltraLAN 60W UPS can't keep up. At this rate, it might be sooner than I initially anticipated.

Can these packed batteries, with the correct wires and connectors in place, be purchased? I tried to find them on aliexpress and alibaba, but couldn't be sure that it was the right configuration. Can you advise?

 

[I.am.Sam]

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[x7razor]

I'd like to get ready for when the batteries of my UltraLAN 60W UPS can't keep up. At this rate, it might be sooner than I initially anticipated.

Can these packed batteries, with the correct wires and connectors in place, be purchased? I tried to find them on aliexpress and alibaba, but couldn't be sure that it was the right configuration. Can you advise?

Hi they use a 4s2p pack a total of 8 x 18650 cells BMS is on the main board. Connector and wire you can get at communica electronics or just re-use the old plug and wire

You should be able to get the pre assembled packs but from what i saw these shrink-wrapped packs if opened up there is no name on the cells or capacity on them and some use these fake Chinese Rakieta cells branded as 12 000mAh but they are more or less 500-700mAh if tested LOL.

I would rather buy my own cells Samsung, Sony, LG and assemble them myself at least then you know what you have bought.

 

[SubtleBeast]

Yeah not sure from the photos it looks like a two prong.

Nope. That's a three-prong. UK-style I think.

 

[Dylan_G]

mine is 12v 1a and 12v 1.5a ..so i see it lowers the hours and life

Right but that's just how *long* it will run for.

In the case of the Ellies Cube Mini... it doesn't output enough current for your use case. It only does 1A per 12V port: https://www.e-systems.co.za/System/FabSheets/0FSLLMINI_Cube_Mini.pdf



As someone mentioned above, your routers *probably* won't pull 1A/1.5A all the time but I mean, do you really wanna take that chance and buy a device that falls short on your actual requirements?