killerbyte
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I think the best option is to buy a second one.
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Router Battery Backup
bought one of these UltraLAN Micro UPS (DC & PoE) - 60W 17.6AH for someone and its working like a charm did not even drop after 2 hours powering a ont and routerI have one of these too. Been brilliant so far
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I have just received my Gizzu from Takealot. Now the setup. Wish me luck.
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Yeah thanks, that was the initial plan but I have to keep the Ratel next to the fibre ONT under the desk coz of the short cable, so I was forced to use POE for the Mikrotik.
POE turned out pretty nice actually so i'll probably stick to that, just need to find a longer DC cable.
So I have set the Gizzu up. I used the switcher on the DC output, set it to 9V, used the splitter plus the extension cable and it is powering both the Archer and the Huawei ONT (despite the ONT being 12v). My last noob-ish question for everyone who uses these UPSs like the Gizzu is: Do I power the router and the ONT through the UPS indefinitely? I have the UPS plugged into the wall charging the battery, but also powering the ONT and router. Do some of you power your router and ONTs on their normal plugs until loadshedding hits and then move over to the UPS or do you power it all through the UPS 24/7?
I powered both the Archer (9V) and my Huawei ONT (12v) with a splitter on just the battery - with the switcher set to 9v - for a couple of minutes. So it is possible to use one Gizzu. I hear that it will continue powering the routers for four hours of loadshedding maximum.
Katelknaap
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Thank you, I just wasn't sure if I should try this or not.
Speedster
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You can keep it running through the ups 24/7
That's kind of the point of a UPS. Uninterruptable Power Supply. If you have to plug things in and out when there are blackouts it kind of defeats the point.
That being said the lifespan of the batteries is often compromised by poorly designed charger circuits which may continually over charge batteries at 100% capacity by trickle charging them too much. This applies to lead acid and lithium based batteries. Some intelligent chargers (like some CTek and Victron units) will charge a battery to 100% capacity, float for a couple of hours before stopping the charge entirely. Then they periodically check the battery every few hours and top it up if required. Some even perform a small discharge/recharge cycle once per week to keep batteries in tip top shape.
A dumb trickle charger will not get the most out of batteries but may be good enough for a small consumer UPS. To get the longest service life out of lithium based batteries you generally want to charge to about 90% capacity and not 100%. Some laptops have driver software to limit the SoC at the expense of a bit of capacity. I rememer using an old HP laptop that had that feature.
Gory details:
www.power-sonic.com
That being said the lifespan of the batteries is often compromised by poorly designed charger circuits which may continually over charge batteries at 100% capacity by trickle charging them too much. This applies to lead acid and lithium based batteries. Some intelligent chargers (like some CTek and Victron units) will charge a battery to 100% capacity, float for a couple of hours before stopping the charge entirely. Then they periodically check the battery every few hours and top it up if required. Some even perform a small discharge/recharge cycle once per week to keep batteries in tip top shape.
A dumb trickle charger will not get the most out of batteries but may be good enough for a small consumer UPS. To get the longest service life out of lithium based batteries you generally want to charge to about 90% capacity and not 100%. Some laptops have driver software to limit the SoC at the expense of a bit of capacity. I rememer using an old HP laptop that had that feature.
Gory details:
How To Charge Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) Batteries
Find out how to safely charge LiFePO4 batteries for maximum performance and lifespan. Take control of your energy use with reliable storage solutions.
www.power-sonic.com
wingnut771
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Yeah, I found an app for my macbook pro to set the battery level. I have it at 80% then when there is loadshedding, change it back to 100%.That's kind of the point of a UPS. Uninterruptable Power Supply. If you have to plug things in and out when there are blackouts it kind of defeats the point.
That being said the lifespan of the batteries is often compromised by poorly designed charger circuits which may continually over charge batteries at 100% capacity by trickle charging them too much. This applies to lead acid and lithium based batteries. Some intelligent chargers (like some CTek and Victron units) will charge a battery to 100% capacity, float for a couple of hours before stopping the charge entirely. Then they periodically check the battery every few hours and top it up if required. Some even perform a small discharge/recharge cycle once per week to keep batteries in tip top shape.
A dumb trickle charger will not get the most out of batteries but may be good enough for a small consumer UPS. To get the longest service life out of lithium based batteries you generally want to charge to about 90% capacity and not 100%. Some laptops have driver software to limit the SoC at the expense of a bit of capacity. I rememer using an old HP laptop that had that feature.
Gory details:
How To Charge Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) Batteries
Find out how to safely charge LiFePO4 batteries for maximum performance and lifespan. Take control of your energy use with reliable storage solutions.
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Just came across this, from Powerforum, a local product that apparently sells for R850:
And this going for, apparently 8800mAh ?! Lithium Polymer Battery going for R499 https://onedealaday.co.za/deals/powerminiNov
So we have:
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And this going for, apparently 8800mAh ?! Lithium Polymer Battery going for R499 https://onedealaday.co.za/deals/powerminiNov
So we have:
- The Ratel
- The Ultralan
- The Pups UPS
- Portable Power Mini UPS
Edit:
- Gizzu
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Speedster
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Gizzu
RonSwanson
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Thanks, added.
killerbyte
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That PUP Ups shows a photo of it with a lead battery inside, rather than the Lithium batteries in the Ratel, UltraLAN and Gizzu (not sure of the Portable Power Mini UPS).
Its basically the same battery I have on my garage motor.
Speedster
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Correct. It's a basic 12V power supply and battery.
I came across an Ellies 105Wh Cube Mini Connectivity Power Pack (https://www.ellies.co.za/product/cube-mini-power-pack/) - advertised at R1 450 via their Facebook page.
Brief specs:
"The Cube Mini is the perfect Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) designed to charge your handheld devices and keep your Wi-Fi router and Fibre terminal connected for a minimum of 4 hours, depending on your device’s energy requirements."
Included:
1 x 105W Life PO4 battery (6 cell lithium ion phosphate, 40 000mAh)
Battery fixing screw pack
1 x 1.5m AC charger cable with 2-pin Euro Plug
2 x DC cables
1 x Set of charger accessories
Outputs:
2 x 12V DC outputs
1 x 9V DC output
1 Type C charging port
1 x USB
Any thoughts or experience with this?
Brief specs:
"The Cube Mini is the perfect Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) designed to charge your handheld devices and keep your Wi-Fi router and Fibre terminal connected for a minimum of 4 hours, depending on your device’s energy requirements."
Included:
1 x 105W Life PO4 battery (6 cell lithium ion phosphate, 40 000mAh)
Battery fixing screw pack
1 x 1.5m AC charger cable with 2-pin Euro Plug
2 x DC cables
1 x Set of charger accessories
Outputs:
2 x 12V DC outputs
1 x 9V DC output
1 Type C charging port
1 x USB
Any thoughts or experience with this?
Speedster
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That seems pretty decent. The one question mark I'd have is the spec sheet says max output is 12W, which is pretty low if correct.
RonSwanson
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Yep, it's cheap.
As supplied, the wires are loose.
I bought a couple of these 5.5mm DC plugs that take the 2.5mm pin when I bought my Ratel.
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Cheapest and easiest way to back up router and ONT is a DC to DC UPS that has multiple 12V and possibly other voltages for phone and laptop charging. My brother has router sized box called a Ratel 8100 and it does 5V USB, multiple 12V and a 19.5V output for laptops. He bought it online from a Joburg based company called Sinetech.
Speedster
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Welcome to the thread. Not quite sure what your post is adding that hasn't been mentioned a gazillion times already though.