Telkom considering free 10 Mbps ADSL upgrades

SlyFly said:
Keep 384 or make it 512 drop the prices a lot (This will make ADSL penetration a lot easier)
Upgrade the 384 to 1 meg
Upgrade the 512 to 2 meg
Upgrade the 1 meg to 4+ meg (Whatever your line and exchange can handle)

Then you will have 512, 1, 2, 4+ packages...

Make the 512 adsl rental something like R100 a month... This means you will be able to have a 512 line with 3 gigs for say R200... And see adsl subscriptions grow...
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+1

Asterix_T said:
Reading through this thread brings me to one conclusion; most people just don't get it. They just have no concept of the technologies or the complexities. The amount of variables that affect a copper line is immense. ADSL modems do a wonderful job of operating on some terrible line conditions and everyone will not be equal with respect to line quality. You cannot blanket up everyone to a higher line rate as the line might not support it. If you already have 4mb, you will most likely get the full 10mb. If you are on a crappy line with 384mb does not mean you can upgrade to even 512mb. These are the realities.
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Man I wish I had a 512Mb ADSL line... I'd even settle for 384Mb...
 
Asterix_T said:
Reading through this thread brings me to one conclusion; most people just don't get it. They just have no concept of the technologies or the complexities. The amount of variables that affect a copper line is immense. ADSL modems do a wonderful job of operating on some terrible line conditions and everyone will not be equal with respect to line quality. You cannot blanket up everyone to a higher line rate as the line might not support it. If you already have 4mb, you will most likely get the full 10mb. If you are on a crappy line with 384mb does not mean you can upgrade to even 512mb. These are the realities.
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Reading your post you seem to be the clueless one - nobody would be complaining if we had those 384mb or 512mb lines you're speaking about...

The reality is that the majority of our country has absolutely no access to internet. A small portion has 384kbps connection and the privileged few have 4mbps at a ridiculous cost. How can other countries be speaking about 1GBps internet but Telkom can't even secure 512kbps to some houses and businesses (and I'm not even talking about township and rural settlements here).
 
BobJones said:
This just doesn't make any sense?

Why fart around with 10Mbs when the next logical jump should be 24Mbs ADSL2+?
Just as you start rolling out 10Mbs, the competition is going to to start offering realworld 14Mbs on cellular broadband and 15Mbs FiOS from Neotel and others.
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If I had to guess, they might be upgrading the exchanges to ADSL2+ which is 24Mbs Max (and no more for copper and drops the further you are from the exchange and depends on the network copper quality in that area), which means that they are probably just limiting the data rates via some settings and once they have the backhaul they can just open it full. The trialing things is most likely only about the latter.

So now we continue waiting...
 
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gregmcc said:
So what happens if you apply for the 10Mbps and your line only sync's properly at 1Mbps? Does that mean you can't apply for that package then?
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Well if that is the case you will not be able to get that package as it will not be available in your area! You would just have to go for the 2mb package :S
 
Viva said:
Flojo asked why we have to wait months. I said that we have to wait because some work needs to be done first. I didn't say that can't expect an upgrade, just that it takes time. I agree, we are paying (twice) for it.
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I agree with the point that these things take time, and they can't just happen overnight. The question is, what have they being doing all this time? Technology is always moving forward and costs are always coming down in the long term, all we're hoping for is that Telkom aren't trying to emulate Eskom and sit on the hands, not doing any forward planning.


Asterix_T said:
Reading through this thread brings me to one conclusion; most people just don't get it. They just have no concept of the technologies or the complexities. The amount of variables that affect a copper line is immense. ADSL modems do a wonderful job of operating on some terrible line conditions and everyone will not be equal with respect to line quality. You cannot blanket up everyone to a higher line rate as the line might not support it. If you already have 4mb, you will most likely get the full 10mb. If you are on a crappy line with 384mb does not mean you can upgrade to even 512mb. These are the realities.
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What about people who have 384kbps lines, not because they can't sync any higher, but because of the price?
 
Asterix_T said:
Reading through this thread brings me to one conclusion; most people just don't get it.If you are on a crappy line with 384mb does not mean you can upgrade to even 512mb. These are the realities.
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And you know what you talking about?

Are you from Telkom? Its a mistake some one from Telkom would make....
 
Asterix_T said:
Reading through this thread brings me to one conclusion; most people just don't get it. They just have no concept of the technologies or the complexities. The amount of variables that affect a copper line is immense. ADSL modems do a wonderful job of operating on some terrible line conditions and everyone will not be equal with respect to line quality. You cannot blanket up everyone to a higher line rate as the line might not support it. If you already have 4mb, you will most likely get the full 10mb. If you are on a crappy line with 384mb does not mean you can upgrade to even 512mb. These are the realities.
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+1
Copper has the same limiting qualities, whether in SA, Germany, UK, USA.......etc. In SA copper lines were always pushed to the longest lengths due to the spread out nature of our cities and communities/communities. In the UK for instance its not very often you get exchange connections longer than 4km......Whereas in SA lines can go very long 5, 6 and sometimes 7km. The longer the copper is, the more it impedes high frequency signals like ADSL.

You remember this graph......it represents the expected results of ADSL over copper with its inherent transmission properties.
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/adsl/extreme/performance/

My line attenuation is 17.5dB (about 1km from the exchange).........so on ADSL I could expect 22Mb/s !!!! (but Ill take Telkoms offer of 10Mb/s for now)
 
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im satisfied with my baby 384! id rather get a bandwidth increase over line speed for now.
what is the point of being upgraded to 512 or 1024 when i only have 3 gigs......?
 
Positively Negative said:
im satisfied with my baby 384! id rather get a bandwidth increase over line speed for now.
what is the point of being upgraded to 512 or 1024 when i only have 3 gigs......?
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Agreed, high speeds and low caps are not conducive but I would still like to do simple things like watch Youtube videos without waiting for them to load :p If I they do free upgrades then I wouldn't say no at all...
 
I suppose a lot of ppl will have to upgrade modems as well......
isn't these "free" modems handed out by ISP's all normal ADSL & not ADSL2+ modems/routers ?:whistle:
 
Tacet said:
That's because you're paying for the Beetle. The F-Yawn is available, but you actually have to pay to get it. While I would also like a 100 Mbps line, I know that I'm paying for a 384 kbps line. If I needed a 4 Mbps line so badly I'd up and pay for it. Yeah, we do overpay and we get too little, but slowly it is changing. At least it is better than the rest of the service delivery around here.

Ok, enjoy the flaming!
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Some of us don't have 4 mbps enabled on our exchanges. It's always nice to make assumptions that the problem lies with us.
 
Upload speeds

We have a 4MB ADSL line but is almost useless except for email due to limitations on the upload speed. We are lucky to get 284KB and this affects Skype, etc, badly. If Telkom can do something about the slow upload 4MB would be fine for almost any application...:cry:
 
I have a 384 line at home. Which isn't exactly quick. Yes i would love a speed upgrade... There is nothing like downloading an episode of big bang theory in 2 minutes 30 seconds, as i do at varsity. However, what I'd really like is a bigger cap. I'm on telkom do broadband, and i'm paying R60-something a gig. Why don't they try keep up with the competition and charge significantly less? Or, even better, just increase my cap! I don't mind slow, i can download overnight. But speed upgrades would be awesome, i won't complain if we only get speed. But extra cap... Thats also long overdue.
 
dawbomb said:
I have a 384 line at home. Which isn't exactly quick. Yes i would love a speed upgrade... There is nothing like downloading an episode of big bang theory in 2 minutes 30 seconds, as i do at varsity. However, what I'd really like is a bigger cap. I'm on telkom do broadband, and i'm paying R60-something a gig. Why don't they try keep up with the competition and charge significantly less? Or, even better, just increase my cap! I don't mind slow, i can download overnight. But speed upgrades would be awesome, i won't complain if we only get speed. But extra cap... Thats also long overdue.
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Cancel the ISP portion, keep the line and sign up with another ISP.
 
My line is still crap and can't sync above 2.5 Mbps and i'm not even living in the bush, we're talking Pretoria here . So somewhere "something gotta give" . They'll upgrade us all, but no one will actually ever get this speed because Telkom don't maintain or upgrade the physical DSLAMs/Lines .

I mean my analog line died a MONTH ago from lightning and Telkom has not bothered fixing it.
 
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