Uncapped ADSL: How much data are you allowed to use?

[Na-iem]

For a self proclaimed expert on the internet

Source please.

you have not even the slightest clue of what the terminology being used is.

Perhaps, perhaps not. I'm always open to being educated.

And I'm saying that you and other people in this thread don't even understand what a capped service is yet you're knocking the ISP's.

If some ISPs label a product inaccurately to the detriment of other ISPs who are labeling their products accurately, then yes, I will be "knocking" the former.

Here is a hint : Throttling after a certain usage is not capping. Cutting off people who abuse a service is not capping. Managing network traffic to maintain quality of service for everyone on the network is not capping. These acceptable use policies just do these things.

Here's another hint. AUPs and uncapped are mutually exclusive.

EDIT:

Because the network infrastructure and international bandwidth that MWEB has purchased is not infinite?

:wtf: We're talking "data usage caps" and you mention bandwidth (speed) limitations? For someone claiming other posters don't understand the terminology...

 

[porchrat]

So if I sell you an uncapped product with fair use conditions of 50MB a month would you still be happy?

If I knew up front that those were the conditions and I signed the contract anyway then I have no right to complain about it. I knew what I was getting into.

If you don't like it just don't sign up.

 

[Curtix2]

Change the name from Uncapped ADSL to Fair Usage ADSL.
Solved.
Next problem please.

 

[c10n3d_0r6]

As long as they keep there fair usage limits fair, I have no problem with that. Rather that than internet is extremely slow cause some idiots max their 4k lines 24/7

 

[porchrat]

Change the name from Uncapped ADSL to Fair Usage ADSL.
Solved.
Next problem please.

+1

 

[Na-iem]

Change the name from Uncapped ADSL to Fair Usage ADSL.
Solved.
Next problem please.

+1

 

[Diesal]

If your company’s infrastructure can’t support uncapped, why market uncapped internet in the first place. This is what some ISPs are doing, they know they can’t sustain it without imposing some kind of limit, even if you download 200 Gb, they investigate, and throttle you for the rest of the week, that then effectively is a limit. They want your money and support, or just your money. Please realize that marketing a product with the name uncapped when there is some sort of a dynamic limit is misleading. I wish you luck when you go to a shopping mall.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

Perhaps, perhaps not. I'm always open to being educated.

This is honestly what I have been trying to do when I've been defining what the 'capped' means because it obviously doesn't mean what you think it does.

Here's another hint. AUPs and uncapped are mutually exclusive.

No, they're not. As long as they aren't setting threshhold and saying "above this no more or you pay for extra" they aren't capping you by the very definition of the word "capped".

Here is a dictionary definition of capped :

...a maximum limit, as one set by law or agreement on prices, wages, spending, etc., during a certain period of time; ceiling: a 9 percent cap on pay increases for this year.

Here is the definition of the word limit (Because I know people are going to quibble with this too.) :

...the final, utmost, or furthest boundary or point as to extent, amount, continuance, procedure, etc.: the limit of his experience;

By definition the service is not capped.

 

[Sirus_the_virus]

Yo Brendan. I thought you were someone I knew here in Cape Town. I understand you fully. Don't think I am 12. But the reality here is that if you offer something like uncapped, don't you think that you want what you pay for? It seems Mweb is the only 1 who is really giving there customers that.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

Yo Brendan. I thought you were someone I knew here in Cape Town. I understand you fully. Don't think I am 12. But the reality here is that if you offer something like uncapped, don't you think that you want what you pay for? It seems Mweb is the only 1 who is really giving there customers that.

No worries, sorry about the age jab. I just get a little over excited in these arguments.

 

[drukkie]

Change the name from Uncapped ADSL to Fair Usage ADSL.
Solved.
Next problem please.

-1 this will never happen....they are breaking the law....and getting away with it.
Why sell a Ferrari that can get 400km per tank when you can sell it as..."Ferrari for sale Unlimited km's per tank!"

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

drukke learn to dictionary.

 

[Sirus_the_virus]

+1. They are working within the confines of a physical system. If they allow the limits of that system to be surpassed because of a few individuals then the entire thing collapses and none of us get internet.

Whining about it isn't going to alter the physical limitations of the system.

But who says that they don't have the physical system to handle all the Data? I think they do. If they don't then I would understand. But nowhere is it said that they cannot handle it? I think that Mweb can handle it cause they have been the only big ISP that has been quiet for a while now.

 

[Tjoker]

Change the name from Uncapped ADSL to Fair Usage ADSL.
Solved.
Next problem please.

now that funny......who watch last episode of How I Met Your Mother?? Does Barney's photo taking and the name change have anything in common?

 

[drukkie]

No, they're not. As long as they aren't setting threshhold and saying "above this no more or you pay for extra" they aren't capping you by the very definition of the word "capped".

Whatever, ok so they aren't capping you, they just kick you off the network....ok so it's not capping...sorry.
this "capping" is also at their discretion....so you could get 400GB, i could get 200GB....random kicking of users....

its not capping...ok

 

[drukkie]

drukke learn to dictionary.

one spelling mistake LOL thanks brenda!

 

[Drunkard #1]

Just for perspective, what make Afrihost/MWeb's offers any different to this offer from Neotel.

For the slow okes out there, it's price and size of cap. Both are called "uncapped", neither is uncapped, both are false advertising. Just because the price is lower, and the cap higher, doesn't mean that the product any more "uncapped" than the Neotel product. Rather stop this lying now, while were dealing with respectable ISPs, than have to deal with smaller and smaller AUC caps later on when every Tom, Dick and Harry climes on the bandwagon, dropping the threshold "just a bit", hoping squeeze their margins up "just a bit".

Edit: Also, I don't think it's fair to expect the consumer to control their own usage when their ISP doesn't say explicitly what is or isn't acceptable. ISPs should make their rules clear.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

I doubt it's random. More likely than not they have extremely complex mathematical algorythms crunching away in the background.

 

[LazyLion]

An uncapped sevice... with conditions attached which you agree to when you sign up to it. Something you seem keen to ignore.

I haven't signed anything. And I'm not about to sign up for a product which is obviously defective. I use my brains rather, thanks.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

Gary, it's far from defective, it just doesn't suit the needs of someone who needs to download 400+ gigs a month which means it is perfect for 99.99% of the home users out there.

MWEB is being perfectly open and honest about any limitations and if you can't accept those you need a sevice that costs 3-4 times as much.