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SauRoNZA said:
No it's an algorithm of distance plus time.

Default is 20 seconds and/or 300m on most of them.

Works well on off ramps but that's about it. Anywhere else it stays on too long.

It's not really self cancelling but rather "I forgot to turn it off myself" indicators.

Mostly useless.
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on my KTM it's 10s and 150m,which is often too short - why they can't make that user settable, I don't know
 
Any ideas of the waiting time to do learners license in Randburg nowadays? Going to get an appointment on Saturday, was just wondering what I should be preparing myself for.

Getting real now :)

BMW course is booked or the 10th. Will then probably go buy gear and all that the weekend after that. Went and had a look at the Z650 yesterday - looks flippen amazing, so I'll probably end up on one of those.

Guy mentioned that currently the Z800 is going for less, and cause I'm tall that might be a better option - can't find nearly as much on the Z800 in terms of reviews for beginner friendliness, what's the consensus here though?
 
Bundu said:
on my KTM it's 10s and 150m,which is often too short - why they can't make that user settable, I don't know
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BMW has three settings I believe but they have to adjust it in the shop.

As you say such a simple thing to just user adjust.
 
GhostSixFour said:
Any ideas of the waiting time to do learners license in Randburg nowadays? Going to get an appointment on Saturday, was just wondering what I should be preparing myself for.

Getting real now :)

BMW course is booked or the 10th. Will then probably go buy gear and all that the weekend after that. Went and had a look at the Z650 yesterday - looks flippen amazing, so I'll probably end up on one of those.

Guy mentioned that currently the Z800 is going for less, and cause I'm tall that might be a better option - can't find nearly as much on the Z800 in terms of reviews for beginner friendliness, what's the consensus here though?
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Z800 is an inline 4 cylinder, and has been succeeded by the Z900 AFAIK, so it will be heavier than the Z650.

Obviously there will be more power and torque but much more than that I can't really say. I'm pretty much guessing here as it is.

It may be cheaper because they're trying to move stock for the Z900 that replaces it. How much cheaper is cheaper anyway?

Edit: bloody autocorrect.
Also to add: I see the 800 has been succeeded in 2017 already.
Are you looking to buy second hand or new?
 
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SykomantiS said:
Z800 is an inline 4 cylinder, and has been succeeded by the Z900 AFAIK, so it will be heavier than the Z650.

Obviously there will be more power and torque but much more than that I can't really say. I'm pretty much guessing here as it is.

It may be cheaper because they're trying to move stock for the Z900 that replaces it. How much cheaper is cheaper anyway?

Edit: bloody autocorrect.
Also to add: I see the 800 has been succeeded in 2017 already.
Are you looking to buy second hand or new?
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It seems that the second hand market doesn't really have any awesome deals, so will probably buy new. It's not a lot cheaper, around the same price as the Z650 +/-R99k for either.
 
GhostSixFour said:
It seems that the second hand market doesn't really have any awesome deals, so will probably buy new. It's not a lot cheaper, around the same price as the Z650 +/-R99k for either.
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Curious. How can the Z800 be new if the last model year was 2016? Very old stock?
 
GhostSixFour said:
Any ideas of the waiting time to do learners license in Randburg nowadays? Going to get an appointment on Saturday, was just wondering what I should be preparing myself for.

Getting real now

BMW course is booked or the 10th. Will then probably go buy gear and all that the weekend after that. Went and had a look at the Z650 yesterday - looks flippen amazing, so I'll probably end up on one of those.

Guy mentioned that currently the Z800 is going for less, and cause I'm tall that might be a better option - can't find nearly as much on the Z800 in terms of reviews for beginner friendliness, what's the consensus here though?
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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I'm not a believer in putting an Inline 4 cylinder in the hands of a beginner.

The Z800/900 is basically a superbike motor put into a naked frame...which makes it worse in many ways as you sit upright and have no aerodynamics on your side. (0-100 in <3 seconds and I'm going to guess 120km/h in 1st gear...which is a few millimetres of throttle if you get it wrong).

It's the equivalent of learning to ride on a Ferrari Enzo (this isn't a joke but a reality).

It's also a much heavier and much taller bike seat height wise which will make a beginner very jittery.

The Z650 on the other hand will give you virtually the same torque (possibly even more at low revs) while limiting the power from insane to reasonable while still outrunning most cars easily.

It will be a better bike to learn on and become a better rider. It will also be much lighter on fuel, tyres and chains so cheaper to run.

More comfortable for having an actual seat instead of a blank and I seem to recall there are some luggage options available too.

Ride it for 2-3 years and then when you ride with pure muscle memory and really know your stuff and crashed a few times you upgrade to something you really want and are able to test ride to the full instead of just buying off the floor hoping for the best like you would now.

And take the one with ABS (if they aren't all standard by now).


Sure it's not impossible to learn on the Z800, but odds are you'll never ride it to 100% and the 650 will make a better rider of you in the longer term.

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The Z650 was called the ER6-N (Naked) or ER6-F (Faired) in previous years which is why you'll struggle to find second hand options.

I have ridden both and the Z650/ER6 is the better commuter.
 
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SauRoNZA said:
This is probably an unpopular opinion but I'm not a believer in putting an Inline 4 cylinder in the hands of a beginner.

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Thank you for the post. Much appreciated that you took the time to type such a thorough reply.

This was my thought process to a large degree as well. I was thinking that I don't quite want a bike where I break out in sweat everytime I have to ride it. Just purely cause the guy at the store mentioned that I might be better suited to a Z800 as I am tall, and thought maybe I'm being a pansy :)
 
Another question. Is there any motorbike specific forums around these parts? It seems that thinkbike has turned into a bit of a ghost town.
 
faniebraai said:
que? i don't get it.
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:D Klein grappie coz you are not the tallest :D

I see a lot of other bikes out on the road and where as my bike (1200 sporty) has the torque, it is a heavy bike but cruising at 160km/h, you get some guys on superbikes passing me like I am looking for parking. There are some skilled riders in Gauteng, but also some that are just plain reckless
 
TheFriendlyGhost said:
:D Klein grappie coz you are not the tallest :D

I see a lot of other bikes out on the road and where as my bike (1200 sporty) has the torque, it is a heavy bike but cruising at 160km/h, you get some guys on superbikes passing me like I am looking for parking. There are some skilled riders in Gauteng, but also some that are just plain reckless
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Oooooooh okkaaayyyyy now i get it

vokofeks
 
Just had a look at the BMW HP4 Race .... wow. but 1.3 bar, thats pricy a.f! And the engine is race spec so will need a rebuild every now and then based on hours!
 
SirFooK'nG said:
Just had a look at the BMW HP4 Race .... wow. but 1.3 bar, thats pricy a.f! And the engine is race spec so will need a rebuild every now and then based on hours!
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All that carbon fibre comes at a cost.
.. An insane cost.
 
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