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Question of the Day: Will you be subscribing to the new Disney+ R49 streaming package?
d0b33
Honorary Master
Steve the gadget Messiah needs your support why dare question his practice?
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fz1
Senior Member
Fair enough. I don't disagree with your point. But it's less 'pronounced' with others.
If you think of all the drawbacks in the iPhone, apply them to phone X from manufacturer Y, would that thing sell? Probably not. But Apple knows their product will sell regardless. They can easily fix those bugs. But they don't need to...
ipodmusicman
Senior Member
@vodacom3g
I am hoping you can answer this question. Why did Vodacom go with only 250mb of data on the iPhone plans instead of unlimited or even anything that has a much bigger cap and at the current prices? I heard people saying that the 250mb disappears very quickly with somebody using it for email and casual browsing.
I am just very disappointed with Vodacom regarding that. This was a very good opportunity for Vodacom to break away from this "every South African company is out there to screw its customers" mentality and give us plans that are more realistic and not thought out by profit hungry executives.
If Vodacom is to get better credibility with its current and FUTURE iPhone customers, they'll do something radical by adding much more data to the plan and keeping the price the same.
Unfortunately, South African companies have always ignored their current and potential customers and I don't see this as being any different.
I am hoping you can answer this question. Why did Vodacom go with only 250mb of data on the iPhone plans instead of unlimited or even anything that has a much bigger cap and at the current prices? I heard people saying that the 250mb disappears very quickly with somebody using it for email and casual browsing.
I am just very disappointed with Vodacom regarding that. This was a very good opportunity for Vodacom to break away from this "every South African company is out there to screw its customers" mentality and give us plans that are more realistic and not thought out by profit hungry executives.
If Vodacom is to get better credibility with its current and FUTURE iPhone customers, they'll do something radical by adding much more data to the plan and keeping the price the same.
Unfortunately, South African companies have always ignored their current and potential customers and I don't see this as being any different.
d0b33
Honorary Master
Correct, the iPod touch updates are not free because Apple develops updates for the iPhone and charges to port these to the iPod Touch.
fz1
Senior Member
um... you update firmware for bug fixes (yes, as you say, that's free). You upgrade (as per my post) your hardware (typically) for new features or even bug fixes that cannot (or will not) be applied via firmware on existing models (that's not free).
All I am saying is that I wouldn't be surprised if Apple does not fix the lack of copy/paste functionality, and the ability to not use Bluetooth for anything other than hands-free (e.g. to send contacts, or synchronise) as a firmware update. That will probably be the iPhone '4G'
Not to mention the crappy camera and (I think) lack of video recording ability. If they were to fix these in a new version, people would jump at the opportunity to upgrade 
(Heck, I might even jump on the bandwagon at that point in time)
How about giving us a mini-review
I'm most concerned about the issues mentioned around (3G) signal reception. Experienced any problems on that front?
Unfortunately I had to put it back after playing with it for a while at Vodaworld this morning
. I must say it has a pretty cool feel to it, web pages was responsive and the 3G seemed to be doing fine… (Obviously I wasn’t driving around or anything) I went on Google maps and it also loaded pretty quickly. The safari browser responded much like opera mini. The screen got very messy quickly and I missed a hardware keyboard. I’m only due for an upgrade next year May and would rather be looking at the HTC Touch Pro or the Xperia, the guy at Sony Ericsson said the latter should be here November/December.I was wating for an iphone 3g, but naa i think at current pricing i'll pass. The google phone will be alot cheaper. While i wouldnt say the Google g1 was as nice as the iphone, it was an excllent first attempt. Won't be long at all for hardware manufacturers to do something amazing with android.
Its simple, phones should not cost as much as the iphone costs. I'd prefer to not be dumb enough to spend as much as they are asking. It's only a phone after all.
Its simple, phones should not cost as much as the iphone costs. I'd prefer to not be dumb enough to spend as much as they are asking. It's only a phone after all.
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I use my iPhone a lot and have rarely gone over 200MB of data... so 250MB should be more than adequate... but i still think that the pricing is crazy... Vodacom had an excellent opportunity here to break the mold of traditional South African mobile contracts... I don't see legitimate iPhone's doing very well in South Africa and a huge "grey" market springing up soon!
fz1
Senior Member
Unfortunately I had to put it back after playing with it for a while at Vodaworld this morning
Thanks for the feedback. Yep, the Xperia looks awesome. But the wait has been agonizing. I fear the cost will be too...
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fz1
Senior Member
Precisely - no hardware should be needed. Is that going to stop Apple from forcing people to upgrade to a new version though?
Video is still not available: http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/5/iphone_3g_no_shows_adobe_flash_video_recording_copy_and_paste
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
The makeup of these packages was probably one of the most elaborate processes we went through. Remember this is not just a VC thing.....
On the 250M, I suspect it's a balance between enough data (for on-phone usage) vs. pricing.
AFAIK, you cannot use the phone as a modem, so the data is only available for on-phone e-mails, browsing, etc. While you'll use more data for e-mail on your desktop, I'm pretty sure you're not going to download attachments, etc. to your iPhone. Same with browsing, you're not going to do serious browsing on the phone itself.
So 250M is probably OK for this.
What do you guys think? How much data will you use on-phone (as opposed to your desktop)?
d0b33
Honorary Master
The iPhone comes with a universal Apple ipod port so it won't be that hard to extend hardware capability like create a camera attachment with pro quality lenses.
Heres an example of how easy it is to extend the iPhone's hardware capability...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/25/icontrolpad-iphone-gamepad-case-prototype-surfaces/
This is just the start, the future will bring proper keyboards etc. fully compatible with the first and newest iPhones no other phones that I know of is this future proof.
And the next firmware updates are already in beta testing
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Eish! what a useless piece of shiny brick.
fz1
Senior Member
The iPhone comes with a universal Apple ipod port so it won't be that hard to extend hardware capability like create a camera attachment with pro quality lenses.
Heres an example of how easy it is to extend the iPhone's hardware capability...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/25/icontrolpad-iphone-gamepad-case-prototype-surfaces/
This is just the start, the future will bring proper keyboards etc. fully compatible with the first and newest iPhones no other phones that I know of is this future proof.
And the next firmware updates are already in beta testing
Interesting. Hadn't heard of this. Thanks for the info!
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Remember, for US companies, ROW (the rest of the world) does not really exist, so I suspect the iPhone is squarely aimed at the US Blackberry market.