When will other areas get fibre?

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Hi guys, so I currently live in carletonville, Gauteng, it's about 70KM from Johannesburg. I just would like to know when my area will get fibre?
Smaller areas want fibre too you know ;)
Telkom says my area can support up to 2mbps but some people have 10mbps lines and it works fine, i have 4mbps currently

Thanks
 
If your area is not even VDSL enabled yet then you got a pretty low chance of getting fibre. Unless you get another company to install fibre in the area.
 
Most areas have fibre already for big businesses. You seem to be asking about FTTH though.

Not for a very long time unless you're in a high density / high income area (think Sandton etc). Its one thing to upgrade the exchanges for VDSL...but replacing the entire connectivity infrastructure from top to bottom including the link to each house...thats a very different story.

Cartonville...don't hold your breath. 5 - 10 years I reckon...if at all. Wireless seems better suited anyway for the less central places.
 
I currently have an issue living in an area that does support fibre, yet am unable to get anyone to actually take my money.

We have telkom, mtn and dfa all 'running' (watched it all being dug up not even a foot from my gate over last several years), another(still waiting to get info on who it is) has just (over last 2 months) been put along the power poles... so, thats 4 different fibre lines running in spitting distance from my front door, yet not one will actually install FTTH. Many isps I have spoken to 'offer' FTTH in my area, and seem to use dfa, yet no one will come and install to my house. They're all interested in only complexes and business parks.

So, even if you have fibre in area and are told FTTH exists and the isps promote FTTH in your area, it doesn't mean you can actually get it.
 
ellyally said:
I currently have an issue living in an area that does support fibre, yet am unable to get anyone to actually take my money.

We have telkom, mtn and dfa all 'running' (watched it all being dug up not even a foot from my gate over last several years), another(still waiting to get info on who it is) has just (over last 2 months) been put along the power poles... so, thats 4 different fibre lines running in spitting distance from my front door, yet not one will actually install FTTH. Many isps I have spoken to 'offer' FTTH in my area, and seem to use dfa, yet no one will come and install to my house. They're all interested in only complexes and business parks.

So, even if you have fibre in area and are told FTTH exists and the isps promote FTTH in your area, it doesn't mean you can actually get it.
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An optical illusion?
 
MickeyD said:
An optical illusion?
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Hehe, that sums it up

Its rather irritating though that the guys in the complex 200m or so down the road get to use it, yet I (and rest of houses surrounding it) can't. Several isps have told me that yes, they provide FTTH in the area, but if I want it, I must get my neighbours and rest of the street to sign up then they might (if it reaches a certain R value) consider actual doing FTTH. So, I must market their product in my area where they already have the infrastructure and are already providing the service in order for me to use it...

Seems FTTH doesn't actually exist at the moment, and should actually be called FTTTHC (town house complex) or similar.
 
Here is a speedtest from my house in Parkhurst:



And this is how we got our community together to make it happen:

1. A very well supported Facebook group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/138462919837/ - this was and is our primary residents association communication tool. If you don't have one, start one! Its critical.

2. Google Plus community:https://plus.google.com/communities/109017985561722529855

3. Really important: You need a group of street campaigners. You will find them - I promise you - people like you who have been concerned about this for a while. Find them through the campaign tools above. I used a google group to send out emails to the team: groups.google.com as well as a whats app group. Assign each campaigner to the street / block in which they live, this is what we did:http://goo.gl/3R2x5r

4. Are you on your residents' association? If not, your first job is to persuade them why this is important. This shouldn't take long.

5. You need town hall meetings - not everyone will come to each one. We had three before launching, and one last week. Use a google plus hangout on the air to record them and make them available to people:http://youtube.com/iloveparkhurst

6. Website: http://www.parkhurstvillage.com/

7. We have whatsapp groups for each street in Parkhurst - mainly for security. Start setting them up. Have your campaign team help out.

8. Stop people in the parks, on your walk/jog, everywhere and check that they are coming to your town hall meetings. Talk to your neighbours.

9. Make your streets/ buildings compete through the sign-up process - we did this through a google form:http://goo.gl/mKa0Ug - in Parkhurst we are now using Wild Apricot for membership management - check it out.

10. Reach out to local print media to connect to members of the community that don’t engage online: http://rosebankkillarneygazette.co.za/137505/parkhurst-gets-everyones-attention/
 
International tests not quite as good (I have gotten a little bit more to London than the test below in the past but not much more). I put this down to continued high prices for city to city connectivity in SA (hopefully to be remedied once MTN/Vodacom/Neotel cables and FibreCo cables are fully operational on multiple routes and competing with one another) and possibly due to international sub-sea cable prices (though these are much lower now), and of course there are lots of other possible reasons. Speedtest to London (Vodafone):

 
hawthornerd said:
3. Really important: You need a group of street campaigners. You will find them - I promise you - people like you who have been concerned about this for a while.
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This is where my effort will end.

My community is filled with people who don't know the difference between Dial-Up and Fibre.
 
When the infrastructure reaches us. It's easy to say the fibre is running past my street but that's usually telkom, mtn or dfa. The latter usually supplies wholesale to other providers. Telscum and eMpTyN still think of fibre as a high margin service so they'll only even consider it for complexes and businesses that they can extort. Really backwards country we are living in.
 
Swa said:
When the infrastructure reaches us. It's easy to say the fibre is running past my street but that's usually telkom, mtn or dfa. The latter usually supplies wholesale to other providers. Telscum and eMpTyN still think of fibre as a high margin service so they'll only even consider it for complexes and businesses that they can extort. Really backwards country we are living in.
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huh?
 
MickeyD said:
Your ignorance?

Telkom has by now rolled out FTTH (not only FTTB) to more areas than all the other network operators combined.

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/104225-telkom-100mbps-fibre-to-the-home-rollout-areas.html
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broad...bps-fibre-to-the-home-here-on-1-december.html

It's their pricing and voice call issues that sucks.
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ROTFL, that is what I said. If you look at that pricing you'll see it's geared towards businesses and closed communities. ;)
 
MickeyD said:
Telkom Wholesale or TI pricing?
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Don't know what you mean. T1 was a leased line option. Don't think it still exists or ever did in our country but its equivalent diginet service was priced sky high even for that period.
 
MickeyD said:
TI is Telkom Internet.
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Sorry, had a brainfart there. Wholesale is mostly point to point connections, internet not included. No use looking there as it doesn't fall within the conversation.

If you look between the lines in the articles you linked to you'll see the following:
1. It's only a handful of suburbs, probably high affluent areas. Such areas also have a higher business presence.
2. It's conditional on the following: "Telkom’s chief operating officer Brian Armstrong previously said that if the commercial launch of FTTH doesn’t work in its initial roll-out areas they would have to relook at their approach to home fibre in South Africa."
With high pricing it's unlikely to properly take off so expect some back-peddling from Telkom.
3. They already canceled 3 areas from their initial 26 down to 23. Two of these are Parkview and Parkhurst. If you recall Telkom were among the initial bidders for Parkhurst but lost together with the others against DFA and Vumatel because they weren't competitive and they still won't be able to compete in these areas.

You were saying of Telkom's pricing?
 
Swa said:
1. It's only a handful of suburbs, probably high affluent areas. Such areas also have a higher business presence.
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No, it's because those areas actually did something instead of bitching on a forum.
 
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