Unrestricted APN

[asmith]

Outgoing has always been unrestricted, on all apn's

So then why do we need to use internetvpn for VPNs?
Its an outgoing connection.

If the plan is to make it difficult to get internetvpn enabled or charge for it, I am not happy about that.

 

[lilDeath]

I am sure you won't be the only one.
Jumping through hoops can be done with the right music, even pleasurable to some extent

 

[vodacom3g]

Some (very few) VPN clients don't like NAT'ed IP's and it was for these we created the internetvpn apn.

There's absolutely no problem getting onto the internetvpn apn, as long as you need it. Same with 'unrestricted'.

No intent to charge for it or even making anyone jump through hoops, merely an issue of capacity management:

Let's say we have x million people configured on the internet apn. We obviously have a massive architecture to cater for this.

Now some of these same people hear about these other, cool apn's (internetvpn and unrestricted) and they get themselves configured for it. (Especially if it is a click-through effort on 4me...)

We now carry every subscriber on both (or all three) systems and the capacity requirements effectively doubles or triples although the total capacity stayed the same.

So the idea is to have you configured on as few apn's as possible, while ensuring you can do everything you need to do.

In addition there is also the issue of the size of the legal IP pools we have for the internetvpn and unrestricted apn. These are not unlimited.

So, in summary, the idea is to only move you to one of the 'specialist' apn's if it is needed.

There was a bit of a free-for-all effort in moving people to the internetvpn apn and we'll need to undo some of it. Still figuring out how.

Please let me know all the legit reasons for being on the internetvpn apn, and I'll build it into the docs.

 

[L8te]

Vpn Working

Is the vpn still working coz mine is not working all of a sudden, is voda having probs maby? ThAnX

 

[pre-g-user]

Any feedback on the 'unrestricted' apn?

Working / not working / happy / not happy ?

Hi V3G ... I thought you had emigrated you were so quiet. I provisioned myself for the unrestricted APN probably 8 weeks ago. I tried it tonight and it still does not work.

To save you asking me any unnecessary questions:

I did provision myself for unrestricted.

I did phone 155 about 4 weeks ago during this whole debacle and confirmed I was provisioned which they did after a lengthy conversation of trying to explain to them what this new APN was because they do not seem to have a clue about it at 155.

I logged onto 4me tonight and it is down again which is nothing new so I cannot check that the option has mysteriously become available again. But after the initial provisioning to unrestricted the option did disappear.

So now what do I do .... is there some secret to this?

Edited: I tried all of last night and again this morning and the v4me site is still down. This seems to be a very very regular occurence.

 

[asmith]

The legit reason is to connect to VPNs from Windows XP.

If you can get your firewall guys to configure the firewalls better the problem may go away. You should only need one routable address per firewall and NAT/masquerade everyone connecting to that firewall out that interface. I am pretty sure we have used that setup without problem in a small network before, so it should be possible. If they get it right then the need for internetvpn apn will go away.

 

[lilDeath]

Some (very few) VPN clients don't like NAT'ed IP's and it was for these we created the internetvpn apn.

There's absolutely no problem getting onto the internetvpn apn, as long as you need it. Same with 'unrestricted'.

No intent to charge for it or even making anyone jump through hoops, merely an issue of capacity management:

Let's say we have x million people configured on the internet apn. We obviously have a massive architecture to cater for this.

Now some of these same people hear about these other, cool apn's (internetvpn and unrestricted) and they get themselves configured for it. (Especially if it is a click-through effort on 4me...)

We now carry every subscriber on both (or all three) systems and the capacity requirements effectively doubles or triples although the total capacity stayed the same.

So the idea is to have you configured on as few apn's as possible, while ensuring you can do everything you need to do.

In addition there is also the issue of the size of the legal IP pools we have for the internetvpn and unrestricted apn. These are not unlimited.

So, in summary, the idea is to only move you to one of the 'specialist' apn's if it is needed.

There was a bit of a free-for-all effort in moving people to the internetvpn apn and we'll need to undo some of it. Still figuring out how.

Please let me know all the legit reasons for being on the internetvpn apn, and I'll build it into the docs.

I can understand the logic behind this. Although there must be process whereby one can only be on one apn at any specific time. And you can basically do it by simply changing a setting in your setup. It all depends on how robust and manageable / complex the architecture and design of the system is...

In order for this to work though and one to only be on one apn; reliability and stability must definitely be sorted out as what is one to do if internet apn is down but internetvpn and unrestricted still works, but you are setup for internet apn only.

 

[vodacom3g]

Hi V3G ... I thought you had emigrated you were so quiet. I provisioned myself for the unrestricted APN probably 8 weeks ago. I tried it tonight and it still does not work.

To save you asking me any unnecessary questions:

I did provision myself for unrestricted.

I did phone 155 about 4 weeks ago during this whole debacle and confirmed I was provisioned which they did after a lengthy conversation of trying to explain to them what this new APN was because they do not seem to have a clue about it at 155.

I logged onto 4me tonight and it is down again which is nothing new so I cannot check that the option has mysteriously become available again. But after the initial provisioning to unrestricted the option did disappear.

So now what do I do .... is there some secret to this?

I can connect and ping myself from the web, so it seems up.

Do you get an IP (41.x.x.x) or do you just get a 619?

After you provisioned yourself, did it work at any point?

 

[pre-g-user]

I can connect and ping myself from the web, so it seems up.

Do you get an IP (41.x.x.x) or do you just get a 619?

After you provisioned yourself, did it work at any point?

Hi V3G, it never worked even once for me. All I get is 619 errors. Can you confirm that the apn name is "unrestricted" ?? I still cannot access V4Me to check if the option has come back or is still unavailable.

 

[vodacom3g]

Hi V3G, it never worked even once for me. All I get is 619 errors. Can you confirm that the apn name is "unrestricted" ?? I still cannot access V4Me to check if the option has come back or is still unavailable.

Yup, unrestricted.

Looks like you probably never got provisioned.

We'll need to wait for the new provisioning process to become available.

 

[Khodi]

Is it open yet?

 

[carlito777]

WOW Unrestricted apn up and working like a charm , Hope it continues like this ,only question i have v3g ,is are we gonna have to phone to enable this apn ,cos they really have no idea what i am talking about when i phone , need to get my clients up and running now . provisioned myself early thank goodness , what an amazing sight it was when i could finally connect .

 

[angus]

Process

Yo,

I know everything was discussed already in bits and pieces, but since U-APN is working now. Can someone just please give a 1 to 5 steps procedure what to do?

Thanks
Gus

 

[Kneebough]

I provisioned myself months ago but still only get 619 errors... Will just have to wait for new method.

 

[MobileAllOver]

Just spoke to the 155 helpline - Apparently they do not provide the service??? I have tried all the different APN names, none of them work. No option on VodaCom4Me either...

So it seems to me that they have decided not to listen to any customer requests...

 

[vodacom3g]

The apn is up and running, but the provisioning process is not. Go figure....

In the mean time, I'm accepting the usual virtual beers....

 

[carlito777]

Hi V3g about a month ago the unrestricted apn was working 100% the past two to three weeks it allows me to connect with the unstricted apn but i am only able to connect to it with another vodacom 3g card , wont let me connect to it with any other connections again except vodacom Is there problems with the unrestricted apn ???????????/

 

[vodacom3g]

Hi V3g about a month ago the unrestricted apn was working 100% the past two to three weeks it allows me to connect with the unstricted apn but i am only able to connect to it with another vodacom 3g card , wont let me connect to it with any other connections again except vodacom Is there problems with the unrestricted apn ???????????/

No, not that I know about. Have not had any other complaints and I'm sure would get them pretty quickly!

When you connect, what IP do you get?

 

[carlito777]

Its starts in the 41. range which is the unrestricted range but no go ,makes no sense to me . and i have changed absolutely nothing, please let me know if anybody else complains so that i know that it is not me who is going looney.

 

[vodacom3g]

Its starts in the 41. range which is the unrestricted range but no go ,makes no sense to me . and i have changed absolutely nothing, please let me know if anybody else complains so that i know that it is not me who is going looney.

Do a few connects and disconnects, so you get a number of different IP's.

PM these to me together with all you contact details, mail addr., etc.

I'll ask the guys to check it out.